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Old Oct 23, 2016 | 09:33 PM
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A friend and I had a discussion on adding stabilizer to the gas before putting the car away for the winter months. I used to do it to all my vehicles and lawn equipment, cheap insurance as gas years ago would become varnish and cause major problems. I no longer add stabilizer to any of my gasoline engines. One of my cars sat for two years without a fuel additive and it started with no problems. Is stabilizer necessary with the modern blends of gas that is produced today? I know it is much cleaner than gas produced in the 70s and early 80s. Opinions, thoughts or have I just been lucky? Storage is usually 6 months.
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Old Oct 23, 2016 | 09:52 PM
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You hit the nail on the head. Luck determines whether you have a problem. Most gas is dry enough that you get by ok, but all gas contains a little dissolved water. As the gas cools over the winter, it will dissolve less and less water. So if you are unlucky, and your last fill-up was from a batch of gas having more dissolved water than usual, then as your gas cools over the winter, you will end up with a small water layer in the bottom of your tank. This can happen both with gas that does and doesn’t contain ethanol, the only difference being that if it happens with ethanol-containing gas, the water layer will be somewhat bigger. Most stabilizers prevent water from dropping out as the temperature falls, even if the gas started out carrying max dissolved water. Use of the words “most stabilizers” carries an important warning. If your area’s gas has ethanol (and most areas do), then IPA-based stabilizers like SeaFoam will not keep the dissolved water in solution. So if you are in an area with ethanol in gas, be careful to use a stabilizer that does not list IPA (isopropyl alcohol) as an ingredient.
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Old Oct 23, 2016 | 10:20 PM
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This has been a topic of discussion (disagreement) for many years. There are valid opinions on both sides, some say use it and some say don't have to.

I think the consensus of opinion is that modern gas is okay for a year, not like the gas in the old days. BUT as mentioned above, there is the new issue of ethanol blends.

My opinion, you live in a COLD part of the country, I think it would be cheap peace of mind to use an "appropriate" stabilizer, ie: if ethanol is in use in your area or not. FWIW, I used to store the car for 6 months in Portland and I used StaBil every year. I felt better and never had a problem. StaBil now has a product for ethanol blend gas and their new StaBil 360 for year round.
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Fuel stabilizer is cheap. Why risk it. Reminds me of a guy who paid $30k for a motorcycle, and then strapped it down to a trailer with $5.00 straps. First corner he took, and one broke. Bike was totaled.

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I used it for years in my lawns mowers, chain saw etc and my 70 vette. However a few years ago my 70 vette was left sitting for over 2 years without any stabilizer. The gas in the tank was a little yellow but it started right up.

in 2014 I stored a 2012 SHO for 6 months without it and had no problems. I plan to continue using it in my chain saws, lawn mowers & snow throwers though.
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You hit the nail on the head. Luck determines whether you have a problem. Most gas is dry enough that you get by ok, but all gas contains a little dissolved water. As the gas cools over the winter, it will dissolve less and less water. So if you are unlucky, and your last fill-up was from a batch of gas having more dissolved water than usual, then as your gas cools over the winter, you will end up with a small water layer in the bottom of your tank. This can happen both with gas that does and doesn’t contain ethanol, the only difference being that if it happens with ethanol-containing gas, the water layer will be somewhat bigger. Most stabilizers prevent water from dropping out as the temperature falls, even if the gas started out carrying max dissolved water. Use of the words “most stabilizers” carries an important warning. If your area’s gas has ethanol (and most areas do), then IPA-based stabilizers like SeaFoam will not keep the dissolved water in solution. So if you are in an area with ethanol in gas, be careful to use a stabilizer that does not list IPA (isopropyl alcohol) as an ingredient.
Thanks, I never considered the water part. I always thought it was break down of the gas over time. Gas without ethanol is not easy to locate. Due to work relocation I was unable to prepare the 78 for storage and it sat for two years and started up with no issues. Unaware too that some stabilizers will not work with ethanol. Good information.
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Old Oct 24, 2016 | 07:46 AM
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I use it in anything that has a gas engine when it will be stored over the winter - boats, personal watercraft, lawn mowers, chainsaws, weed eaters, leaf blowers, farm tractor, generator, etc. It's cheap insurance.
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Thanks, I never considered the water part. I always thought it was break down of the gas over time. Gas without ethanol is not easy to locate. Due to work relocation I was unable to prepare the 78 for storage and it sat for two years and started up with no issues. Unaware too that some stabilizers will not work with ethanol. Good information.
I’d stop short of saying gum formation and/or degradation of the gas itself can’t happen any more, but the main trigger for that in past years was the sulfur, which is now almost entirely removed. The main threat to long term storage now is water separation caused by colder winter temperature. The water itself is no problem as long as it stays dissolved. It only becomes a problem if it separates, and most of the time, there isn’t enough present to separate even in cold weather. But saying “most of the time” is where the luck comes in, with stabilizer being a cheap insurance policy.
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I'd put it in, it can't hurt and it might help.
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I've heard that Marine Sta-Bill works better than the regular.
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