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Old Jan 2, 2017 | 03:34 PM
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that car still has lots of miles of smiles - my 07 has the same mileage, runs like a charm
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Old Jan 2, 2017 | 04:01 PM
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I did a quick check on Kelly Blue Book. I spec'd the car out as middle of the road trim level since it's not known if it is LT 1, 3, etc. For "Excellent" condition trade-in, the seller (in Las Vegas) is looking at about $17K value. So, a cash offer of $19K would appear to be reasonable.

I'd check out the tires.... and keep in mind that a set of Run Flats can set you back about $1,500. And with the car being a 2007, the TPMS sensors are just about at the limit of their battery life, so you'll probably want to proactively replace those. They run about $30-$35 each online.
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Old Jan 2, 2017 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by OlyC6
I did a quick check on Kelly Blue Book. I spec'd the car out as middle of the road trim level since it's not known if it is LT 1, 3, etc. For "Excellent" condition trade-in, the seller (in Las Vegas) is looking at about $17K value. So, a cash offer of $19K would appear to be reasonable.

I'd check out the tires.... and keep in mind that a set of Run Flats can set you back about $1,500. And with the car being a 2007, the TPMS sensors are just about at the limit of their battery life, so you'll probably want to proactively replace those. They run about $30-$35 each online.
His ad read it had a HUD, provided it's a OEM install, so I think it's 3LT..

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Old Jan 2, 2017 | 04:12 PM
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I read somewhere that they underrated the HP to 400 because they did not want to upset the 2004 Z06 owners with a 2005 base LS2 having more HP than their 405HP they just paid big bucks for the year before. Now whether that's true or not I don't know. Lol
That's what I read also.
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Old Jan 2, 2017 | 05:14 PM
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Memories of my white '92. I had two corvettes in my drive for one day only. The day I drove my 07 in from museum delivery was the day a buyer picked up my C4.

My 07 with 75k miles has been very reliable:
mysterious broken rear half-shaft - $75
Alternator - $175
shifter bushing -$8
Fuel guage sensor bad - $10 workaround
harmonic damper is next, going bad - $250

Plus the usual battery, brakes, fluids, tires. I do my own work.

The extra 20hp in an LS3 will not be noticed by you IMO. My LS2 with CoW tune and throttle boost can burn plenty of rubber, even in second gear with an A6. The only thing from the 08 list of upgrades I would care about is the supposed improved steering feel.

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Old Jan 2, 2017 | 05:42 PM
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I have a 2007 Coupe, Z51, 1LT. Knock on wood but the C6 car has been a heck of a lot more reliable than my 2000 FRC was. I bought the C6 in 2010 and at the time I couldn't afford to get into a LS3 car - prices were just too high.
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Old Jan 2, 2017 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Elizabeth City Vette
I read somewhere that they underrated the HP to 400 because they did not want to upset the 2004 Z06 owners with a 2005 base LS2 having more HP than their 405HP they just paid big bucks for the year before. Now whether that's true or not I don't know. Lol
I think we have all read that, and it does make a lot of sense. By contrast, the post above you seems to contend that, in 2005, GM underrated the LS2 so that in 2008, they could show a 30+ HP increase with the LS3. I read the post like 5 times, and that is what I got out of it. Pretty amazing for GM to read the future so correctly, huh?
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Old Jan 2, 2017 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by buckmeister2
I think we have all read that, and it does make a lot of sense. By contrast, the post above you seems to contend that, in 2005, GM underrated the LS2 so that in 2008, they could show a 30+ HP increase with the LS3. I read the post like 5 times, and that is what I got out of it. Pretty amazing for GM to read the future so correctly, huh?
Ha, all the under-rating they did in the '60s, I guess they're still at it. The original 302 Z-28 and L88 and ZL1 Vettes come to mind. And, if I recall correctly, identical engines were rated differently depending on what car they were in.
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If the car is the right color, has the right equipment and the right condition you won't be sorry with the 2007. I was looking for an 08 but came across the right 07 first. 400 hp is enough for me.
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Old Jan 2, 2017 | 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by lspalding
If the car is the right color, has the right equipment and the right condition you won't be sorry with the 2007. I was looking for an 08 but came across the right 07 first. 400 hp is enough for me.
Those items are all more important than the engine...from driving them, I have seen more difference from one engine to another than from LS2 to LS3
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Old Jan 2, 2017 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by lspalding
If the car is the right color, has the right equipment and the right condition you won't be sorry with the 2007. I was looking for an 08 but came across the right 07 first. 400 hp is enough for me.
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Old Jan 2, 2017 | 09:22 PM
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I was told the same thing, "Hold out for an 08, the extra horsepower is worth it". I ran across my 007, it was perfect, transmission, color and features and the price was right. I have no regrets and like someone else said 400hp is plenty for me.

I've had the headlight fix done and talked to them about the air bag, but didn't want the fix the way GM wants to do it, so I passed on it.
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Old Jan 3, 2017 | 01:42 AM
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Armed with the info from this thread, I went and seen the car. All in all, it looks to be a solid car. To my standards, it needs a deep cleaning. It also needs some very slight cosmetic work, along with the support struts for both the hood and rear lid. The visors were a bit loose, the driver seat shows some wear and the drivers door has an alignment issue. It drove and sounded good. I do believe it is a 3LT, and he said he would take $18.5K. I don't feel this is the car for me, however I think it will sell fast to someone less picky.

If you are in the Las Vegas area and are interested, click on the link below:

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Old Jan 3, 2017 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by lances2000
Armed with the info from this thread, I went and seen the car. All in all, it looks to be a solid car. To my standards, it needs a deep cleaning. It also needs some very slight cosmetic work, along with the support struts for both the hood and rear lid. The visors were a bit loose, the driver seat shows some wear and the drivers door has an alignment issue. It drove and sounded good. I do believe it is a 3LT, and he said he would take $18.5K. I don't feel this is the car for me, however I think it will sell fast to someone less picky.

If you are in the Las Vegas area and are interested, click on the link below:
Despite others that might say "this car is just broken in," a car is a machine and machines wear out, and the older they are the more wear they show and the more likely various repairs will be needed.

Higher mileage cars would normally sell for a lower price than an equivalent low mileage car for no other reason than it is closer to the end of its useful or "pristine-looking" life -- however one wishes to define that.
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Old Jan 3, 2017 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by buckmeister2
I think we have all read that, and it does make a lot of sense. By contrast, the post above you seems to contend that, in 2005, GM underrated the LS2 so that in 2008, they could show a 30+ HP increase with the LS3. I read the post like 5 times, and that is what I got out of it. Pretty amazing for GM to read the future so correctly, huh?
You think GM can design, test , pass all government emmission test and set up assembly for a new engine in less than 2 years? I think they had been working on the LS3 for quite a while. Just my opinion.
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Old Jan 3, 2017 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by lances2000
Armed with the info from this thread, I went and seen the car. All in all, it looks to be a solid car. To my standards, it needs a deep cleaning. It also needs some very slight cosmetic work, along with the support struts for both the hood and rear lid. The visors were a bit loose, the driver seat shows some wear and the drivers door has an alignment issue. It drove and sounded good. I do believe it is a 3LT, and he said he would take $18.5K. I don't feel this is the car for me, however I think it will sell fast to someone less picky.

If you are in the Las Vegas area and are interested, click on the link below:

I leave you with a few pics:

Yes it's a 3LT, saw the heated seat switch. Not a bad price you got him down to...
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Old Jan 3, 2017 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by buckmeister2
You drive an average of 2400 miles per year, so any car that is well-maintained, and in good condition, will likely never get driven enough to give you problems. The '07 looks like a well-maintained vehicle.

Ebay is a terrible source for pricing,unless you know how to use the "sold items" report. Check out Cars.com and cargurus.com for better price comps. As has been discussed here many times, there is not 30-36 HP diff between the ls2 & ls3, more like 15-20. While a 2008 is preferable in some ways, the best condition car at the best price is the best buy.

Remember, if you buy from a private seller, you don't have to pay sales tax, which will save you about $1700 on a $20K car. If you like the car, and it has the options you want, I would offer $19K. If seller does not take it, come up a bit. I can't see him getting $20K this time of year.

And, for the person who said highway miles are BS...man, you are so far off, it cannot even be measured. You will NEVER see city service cars, city taxis, or other vehicles that are used only in city driving go 300K without an engine rebuild, to say nothing of the brutal wear and tear on brakes, suspension, and transmission. I get that you get crazy when people say "all highway miles", as do I. But, that is because I know they are lying, not because I think there is no diff between highway and city miles. Just think about it...on a theoretical 500 mile trip cross-country compared to 500 city miles, how many times do you use the brakes, shift the tranny, turn sharp corners, open and close the doors, scoot in/out of the seats, and on, and on...all of it is wear and tear, and it makes highway miles a walk in the park by comparison.
Even though you do not pay the seller any tax on the purchase, most states will charge tax when you go to register the car! They do in Texas
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Old Jan 3, 2017 | 06:09 PM
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Even though you do not pay the seller any tax on the purchase, most states will charge tax when you go to register the car! They do in Texas
Yupper, here in NYS too -- for the past 50 years at least. Probably a lot longer.

Back in the day, we would get sellers to write a bill of sale for much less than we actually paid so we could save on taxes when we registered it -- it was routine back then, probably a major felony today punishable by death.
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Old Jan 3, 2017 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by jshot00
Even though you do not pay the seller any tax on the purchase, most states will charge tax when you go to register the car! They do in Texas
My response was to the OP, who is in NV, and from me, a NV resident...where we do not pay sales tax on private seller vehicles.
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Old Jan 3, 2017 | 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by jshot00
Even though you do not pay the seller any tax on the purchase, most states will charge tax when you go to register the car! They do in Texas
I registered my 2012 GS I purchased from a private seller in Illinois.

From the DMV website:
Purchase price (or fair market value) ($)
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15,000 to 19,999.99
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20,000 to 24,999.99
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25,000 to 29,999.99
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30,000 or more
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If I purchased it at a dealer, I would have paid $3,000 in sales tax.
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