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Old Aug 2, 2017 | 07:37 PM
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My car is dead in a parking lot. No electrical power whatsoever.

I am guessing battery short. I'll grab my multimeter and see.

Otherwise a ground or is there a main fuse or relay?

I had no luck with the search function. Advice appreciated.
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My guess would be battery itself. Check cable connections first.
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It wouldn't jump. I took battery back to Autozone they said good: 12.7v. Took it back to the car and it had enough power to run the seat and light, hit the starter and CLICK, no electrical power. I took it back to see if there were any amps in the battery. They don't know how to load test it, so it's on the bench tonight.

Hopefully I can get a full battery test tomorrow when the morning crew gets there.

I am perplexed. Car was fine. I stopped to get dinner take out and went to start it and CLICK. Absolutely no power. No even a dome light. Obviously I don't want it towed, particularly if it's a battery.

I am inclined to agree that it's a battery or loose ground.

I have no idea where the ground is on the car.

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Old Aug 2, 2017 | 10:14 PM
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Sounds to me like you either have a failed battery internal or you may have a wire loose or corroded.
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Old Aug 2, 2017 | 11:14 PM
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If it isn't the battery I would guess the ground has lost connection. I don't know where the ground connects. I don't know if there is another connection, link or fuse that would kill all power.

I am inclined towards the battery since it's new and I got a nano second of power when I reinstalled it before it went totally dead again.
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Old Aug 3, 2017 | 12:15 AM
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New battery and clean the terminals with a wire brush and I bet it starts right up.
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I cleaned the terminals when I installed the new battery a few weeks ago. I wish Autozone could've load tested the battery. Perhaps I can get it resolved tomorrow.
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Originally Posted by LowRyter
I cleaned the terminals when I installed the new battery a few weeks ago. I wish Autozone could've load tested the battery. Perhaps I can get it resolved tomorrow.
Was getting ready to ask if they load tested it; my guess would be the battery is bad. Had a very similar thing happen to me a while back; car started and ran fine on the way to a friends, visited for about an hour, went out car was dead. Took the battery to AutoZone, showed 12+V, as soon as the load tested it, volts dropped to almost zero. Bought and put in a new battery, car started right up.
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OK, In the light of day it was the ground. The ground connector to the battery.

It's a funky connector with a plastic case around it but it doesn't clamp tight. It had just a thin ring of corrosion inside it (that'll do it). I scraped it off and reinstalled it. Works now. Got home and sprayed that red stuff on the cable end.

Don't know why it doesn't clamp tight no mater how hard I screwed it.

Thanks for all your comments against all my BS to get there.

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Originally Posted by LowRyter
OK, In the light of day it was the ground. The ground connector to the battery.

It's a funky connector with a plastic case around it but it doesn't clamp tight. It had just a thin ring of corrosion inside it (that'll do it). I scraped it off and reinstalled it. Works now. Got home and sprayed that red stuff on the cable end.

Don't know why it doesn't clamp tight no mater how hard I screwed it.

Thanks for all your comments against all my BS to get there.
Take the nut off and see if it's cone shaped on the bottom or that the cone shape is facing the bottom. If it's not the right nut with a cone shape on the bottom it will never get tight enough. That is definitely strange GM engineering what they did there.
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Old Aug 3, 2017 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by EVRose
Take the nut off and see if it's cone shaped on the bottom or that the cone shape is facing the bottom. If it's not the right nut with a cone shape on the bottom it will never get tight enough. That is definitely strange GM engineering what they did there.

The bottom of the battery cable nut is what EVRose is referencing.
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Old Aug 3, 2017 | 01:09 PM
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When you jump start anything you should connect the ground cable to a ground and not the battery. This would have started the car.
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Originally Posted by STL_Hokie




The bottom of the battery cable nut is what EVRose is referencing.
oooh geesss, that es-planes it.

I have just a flat nut on mine. Where I am going to get a conical nut?
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Old Aug 3, 2017 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by LowRyter
oooh geesss, that es-planes it.

I have just a flat nut on mine. Where I am going to get a conical nut?
From what I've read here, you cannot get them from GM but they are available here or there, maybe on ebay . . . ?

Were it me, I would just go down to my local auto parts store and get a universal cable terminal for $2, snip the old one off and put the new one on.
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Originally Posted by LowRyter
oooh geesss, that es-planes it.

I have just a flat nut on mine. Where I am going to get a conical nut?
Send an email to sales@aescorvetteparts.com and see if they can help. I purchased a used one from them for my '08 from them last year.
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Thanks, I'll go to Ace and look through their nuts and bolts. If I can't find the a nut, I'll look for a conical spacer or flatten a spacer in my vice to get it to wedge in there.
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Originally Posted by LowRyter
Thanks, I'll go to Ace and look through their nuts and bolts. If I can't find the a nut, I'll look for a conical spacer or flatten a spacer in my vice to get it to wedge in there.
You're welcome. Good luck!
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Hokie, no luck at all. Even after the local Chevy shop said they had it until I got there to pick it up.

Thanks for the link.
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Hokie, no luck at all. Even after the local Chevy shop said they had it until I got there to pick it up.

Thanks for the link.
Got any local salvage yards? You might be able to get one there.
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