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Old 09-21-2017, 10:25 AM
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Why the lower red line (6500) for the LS3 vs. the LS7 (7000). Basically the same motor I believe. Stronger internals in the LS7 or ?? Just wondering
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I would venture to say its the power band the cam pulls to. No sense in a higher red line then the cam is making power. When you reach it you shift gears.

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Originally Posted by bluekey28
Why the lower red line (6500) for the LS3 vs. the LS7 (7000). Basically the same motor I believe. Stronger internals in the LS7 or ?? Just wondering
Ugh the motors are completely different. Heads on the ls7 have bigger ports, port shapes, and larger valves. The ls7 is also a 427 instead of a 376 like the ls3. Ls7 uses titanium rods and a much larger bore.

All of that in addition to the cam profile which is drastically different contribute the the higher rpm
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Lighter valve train parts will safely increase the red line, titanium intake and sodium cooled (hollowed) exhaust valves.

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The LS3 will easily turn 7K if you change the limiter in the ECM. Any tuner can change the redline.
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rpm = horsepower
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Originally Posted by simplegto
The LS3 will easily turn 7K if you change the limiter in the ECM. Any tuner can change the redline.
Changing the limiter in the ECM does NOT make it safe to rev to 7000 rpm. Just because it can be done does not make it safe
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Here's reading that will explain how the 427 motor was developed. Lots of racing technology in that motor.

http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/...ine/index.html

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Originally Posted by 449er
Changing the limiter in the ECM does NOT make it safe to rev to 7000 rpm. Just because it can be done does not make it safe
Most do it in conjunction with a cam install. Better springs, better harmonic balancer, and often a ported oil pump along with the cam pushing the power curve higher into the rpm range.
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Originally Posted by Usmc041127
I would venture to say its the power band the cam pulls to. No sense in a higher red line then the cam is making power. When you reach it you shift gears.
This

I'm regularly on track with my GS. At 7000rpm a stock LS3 would just be making noise.

To the OP....LS3 and LS7 are faaaaaar from being the same engine.
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Originally Posted by simplegto
The LS3 will easily turn 7K if you change the limiter in the ECM. Any tuner can change the redline.
Yes, but its pointless to rev a stock LS3 to 7k rpms... it looses power at 6k... Get a Cam!!
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Originally Posted by got2hav1
Here's reading that will explain how the 427 motor was developed. Lots of racing technology in that motor.

http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/...ine/index.html

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Extremely interesting & detailed read! Thanks for sharing the link!
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Originally Posted by 2L8LUZ
Yes, but its pointless to rev a stock LS3 to 7k rpms... it looses power at 6k... Get a Cam!!
Maybe you don't understand the concept of keeping the engine in the powerband. You don't shift when you reach maximum power, but when the average power on the high side of the curve is equal to the average power on the low side.
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Originally Posted by 449er
Changing the limiter in the ECM does NOT make it safe to rev to 7000 rpm. Just because it can be done does not make it safe
Who said anything about safe.

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