C6 4LT leather dash issues/repair failure
#21
Race Director
If you go the the ZR1 Z06 threads there are currently several threads and many threads on this issue in the past. The glue issue is legit, Chevrolet does not make the dashes. Many high dollar cars had the same issue. The windshield DOES NOT have to come out. Mine was replaced with a customer satisfaction deal and cost me $500. I was very fortunate.
#22
Melting Slicks
The government did not force the car companies to use an ineffective glue. The car companies chose to use that glue and should have known that if the glue would not be adequate, then don't offer leather-clad dashboards or come up with something else. Making excuses for lame design & production decisions allows companies to continue to get away with making junk.
Then again... **If it lays flat, it can't sag.. Right??
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#24
Melting Slicks
If it was done right and they didn't do it by removing the windshield then they pulled the entire dashboard out of the car. I'd much rather have my windshield removed and replaced than the dashboard and it would be cheaper than $500. If you're satisfied that's all that matters.
#25
Pro
When I bought my 2009 used off the lot, it had the dash problem that you have. Part of the deal was to fix it to my satisfaction. They tried to glue it down, but that didnt really work too well and wouldn't guarentee anything. They ended up putting in a new dash for customer satisfaction thru GM. Would not warranty the new dash. Claim that the glue that they are using in the dash has changed thru the years and is not as effective for some reason.
#27
I think one of the problems that makes re-glueing problematic, is that applying new glue to a surface that already has had another adhesive used on it prevents the new glue from bonding to the surface material, so it ends up failing again. To do it right, you'd probably have to find some way to remove all the old glue residue first, which may be nearly impossible to do given the types of surfaces involved.
I've wondered if a better solution might be to drill a few holes in the forward edge and install some black plastic Christmas tree rivets to hold it down, along with re-glueing it.
I've wondered if a better solution might be to drill a few holes in the forward edge and install some black plastic Christmas tree rivets to hold it down, along with re-glueing it.
#28
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#29
Le Mans Master
I was wondering if anyone else has made an attempt to repair their leather dash on their 4LT corvette.
What it is doing is bubbling and separating in the heat.
I went through my dealership and paid for a repair which involved a reglue of the dash.
The problem has returned and I just wanted to see if anyone successfully repaired theirs.
thank you.
What it is doing is bubbling and separating in the heat.
I went through my dealership and paid for a repair which involved a reglue of the dash.
The problem has returned and I just wanted to see if anyone successfully repaired theirs.
thank you.
Someone who specializes in automotive interiors will likely do the job for a little less, and give you warranty.
Good luck. I hope you find a solution to this common problem.
#30
it is sadly an issue that runs across the board with pretty much any vehicle that has a leather dash, poor adhesive, heat, humidity all play a factor. I have seen dashes in another brand of vehicle peel almost all the way loose and it was a low mileage, garage kept vehicle.
If you are keeping the car and GM won't help, I would look for an automotive interior shop that will use the proper glue and have the dash redone, if they pull the dash it will likely get very expensive, pulling the windshield is a cheaper and easier option if the shop is willing to do it and if the windshield doesn't break.
If you are keeping the car and GM won't help, I would look for an automotive interior shop that will use the proper glue and have the dash redone, if they pull the dash it will likely get very expensive, pulling the windshield is a cheaper and easier option if the shop is willing to do it and if the windshield doesn't break.
#31
The only response I would have is, "Why did you go to the dealer?" There is not a single person on the staff there who has ever designed, made, or installed an interior.
Someone who specializes in automotive interiors will likely do the job for a little less, and give you warranty.
Good luck. I hope you find a solution to this common problem.
Someone who specializes in automotive interiors will likely do the job for a little less, and give you warranty.
Good luck. I hope you find a solution to this common problem.
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After reading all these posts in this thread, I have come to the conclusion that there is really maybe only one [permanent fix] for this problem:
Replace the 4LT dash with a 1LT, 2LT or 3LT dash.
Anyone agree ?
Replace the 4LT dash with a 1LT, 2LT or 3LT dash.
Anyone agree ?
#33
Melting Slicks
There are some "3" packages that are the leather depending on year, mine is a 2008 3LZ which was the highest option package then.
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I guess I would have been safe saying ... Replace with a 1LT or 2LT dash
(I was thinking of the 2010 - 2013 cars)
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(I was thinking of the 2010 - 2013 cars)
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And no, I wouldn't just immediately take the first recommendation; I'd go find out more about the shop, the work that's already been done, etc. Trust but verify is the operative phrase. If you don't have time or inclination to do that, you will suffer whatever happens (good or bad) as a result.
You can also try Corvette clubs in your area for those who have older generations that need/have had restorations. But some/most of the work done on earlier-gen interiors isn't truly custom; it's adding already-made seat covers, panels, carpets, etc.
Good luck.
#37
Le Mans Master
It is important to deal directly with people who are most experienced with doing repairs of the type you need. Sadly, some shop personnel at a Chevy dealership will spend a 1/2 hour looking for the dipstick to measure the trans fluid in an A6 because they don't know there isn't a dipstick. That is no joke...and that is not the person I want working on my car.
#38
Heel & Toe
My 2009 C6 4LT had the same leather dash shrink problem as described and will probably take to a good interior shop for the solution. Do appreciate all the input on this issue.
#39
Racer
So what do you think Chevy or whoever is using for glue on the C7’s? There sure are a lot of leather wrapped dashes and a huge amount of C7 ZO6’s out there. Plenty of them in my area, haven’t heard of any problems as of yet.
#40
Racer
Where did you come up with this one???? Contact Cement has been used for decades for bonding disimilar materials with great results and it has not been banned by any unnamed federal agengy.
The only adhesive banned are those containing asbestos (1986), and that is banned worldwide in any civilized nation companies due to health risks (asbestosis, etc.) and of course litigation law suits.
GM likely used a cheaper water based adhesive instead of the good stuff.
The only adhesive banned are those containing asbestos (1986), and that is banned worldwide in any civilized nation companies due to health risks (asbestosis, etc.) and of course litigation law suits.
GM likely used a cheaper water based adhesive instead of the good stuff.