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Old 01-12-2018, 09:45 PM
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Default Do you heel and toe your C6?

I'm aware that about 70% of Corvettes sold are automatic.

But I might get lucky and still be able to find manual drivers who can report.

Do you heel and toe your C6? Have you done it on the track?

In your opinion, are the pedals positioned for good heel and toe?

Is the gearbox satisfying for that?

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Old 01-12-2018, 09:54 PM
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Yes, I heel-toe my C6 on the track and daily driving. For ME the pedal position, and transmission (all stock at the time) were great for it. I found that wearing an athletic type of shoe that made the pedal feel a bit more sensitive was beneficial if you could wear it while driving.

The gearbox was sufficient for heel-toeing as well. I'm sure a much better driver might rightfully critique an older "sports car" on it's ability to respond to driver inputs, but for the average driver in an average situation, you won't outdrive the car.
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Honestly, not for daily driving. I definitely see how it could be beneficial on the track though, but I have yet to spend any time there.
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Can't imagine owning a auto trans vette, well maybe when I'm well into retirement age! Anywho I have been trying it the last few times I drove and it's not coming easily, I plan on tracking the car this year, it takes practice maybe the right shoe, I hate to modify the pedals.
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Old 01-12-2018, 10:02 PM
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Let me look up some clips of me doing it. It's easier than people will make it out to be in the car.
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Old 01-12-2018, 10:05 PM
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For me they were slightly too far apart, just me, did the same with a Porsche, BMW and Camaro 1LE, I've always bought billet pedals that allow you to shift them left or right on top of the oem pedals, then I move the gas 1/4" to the left, brake 1/4" to the right, bingo. https://www.performancepedals.com/co...let-pedal-sets

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Having flat feet, I toe-heel.

Heel on the brake and toe on the gas. It works for me. I do it all the time. Saves clutch, makes for smooth drive.
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Old 01-12-2018, 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by LowRyter View Post
Having flat feet, I toe-heel.

Heel on the brake and toe on the gas. It works for me. I do it all the time. Saves clutch, makes for smooth drive.
And I use heel/side of right foot for gas blip. Heel toe is the best thing about driving a manual and a must for the track IMO. Ever seen this? Senna heel/toe:
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Old 01-12-2018, 10:36 PM
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Yes, reving the motor back up is the only way to get from 5 straight down to 2 one step quickly for a tight corner during heavy braking off the straight into the corner (hence braking all they way into the apex with the clutch in, and before you are about to get back off the clutch in 2nd without blowing the trans/ the motor by over revving, as you about the end of the entry apex instead.
Note, with a auto, this never works out well (rapid downshifting), since the trans will not bang down that fast on the hard braking faster enough, and you find yourself either in a gear too high, or the trans trying to make that last shift down on the way out of the apex isntead.

As for the pedal, elite has just the ticket, but if you don't heal-toe, or the car is more for just street driving, then don't put it on your car.


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I have a size 10 foot but I still think they are slightly too far apart for comfortable heel/toe action. I find myself having to think about it too much when I do it so I've not continued on with this particular car.

But in daily driving, no, I don't generally heel/toe as I'm usually driving properly and not taking turns crazily.
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I think my size 13s make it difficult. I have never liked the stock pedals. Too slippery. But haven't found the right replacement yet. Suggestions welcome.
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Originally Posted by zzjakect View Post
I think my size 13s make it difficult. I have never liked the stock pedals. Too slippery. But haven't found the right replacement yet. Suggestions welcome.
Not really a shoe size, but the wider spacing between the pedals isntead.

If you have ever owned a lotus (or other type of track car), the brake to gas pedal is much closer to start with, and you can adjust the brake pedal even more closer to the gas pedal if needed as well.






On the vet with wider spaced non adjustable pedals, the brake pedal is too far away from the gas pedal, so wider bottom heal-toe gas pedal makes it much easier to reach the gas pedal with your heal; so your not have to turn your right foot dam near 90* on the brake pedal to reach the gas pedal instead.

The elite pedal on just the gas pedal.



PFYV pedal covers for brake and clutch pedal as well, to get the gap even closer.

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Old 01-13-2018, 09:11 AM
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No, I am not that coordinated. Just trying to blip the accelerator is tough enough.
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I think drivers should heel-toe (or toe-heel) all the time by habit of driving a stick.

It's just the way you should be driving.

Now it seems that automatic rev match is standard on some cars and even on motorcycles. I've been doing it for years with my feet (and hands).

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Old 01-14-2018, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by LowRyter View Post
I think drivers should heel-toe (or toe-heel) all the time by habit of driving a stick.

It's just the way you should be driving.
I agree.


I have no problem with heel toe on my Vette or my WRX. I do it every time I drive.

I actually use the ball of my foot on the brake and the right side of my foot on the gas.
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Old 01-14-2018, 11:35 AM
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Using the heel & toe method for everyday driving ?? I dunno....kinda sounds like talking about your $1000 pool cue so people will think you're a good pool player......
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I guess if I lived in the country with winding roads and little traffic I would heel toe it . I don't downshift through the gears to engine brake also so in my urban area no point in trying to do it other than for practice.
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Not just for braking, everytime I down shift I throttle blip. Just fun and great for the entire driveline, from engine bearings to clutch discs
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Old 01-14-2018, 01:26 PM
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Anytime I downshift from 4th to 2nd to make a turn at an intersection, I'll heel the brake and blip the gas pedal with my toe and drop the gear. Sometimes, I'll double clutch it too.

I do this all the time when I drop a gear and brake as a matter of driving smoothly. I do it when I drive my C6, my '14 Accord or my '00 Trooper.

As I said, I have flat feet and I toe-heel. The affect is the same. I also blip the throttle when I downshift my motorcycles which allows me to maintain control and stay safe. Perhaps that's why I am in habit of doing it whenever I drive and ride.

Frankly, I think that you're abusing your vehicle and losing control if you don't do it.

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Old 01-14-2018, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Dano523
Yes, reving the motor back up is the only way to get from 5 straight down to 2 one step quickly for a tight corner during heavy braking off the straight into the corner (hence braking all they way into the apex with the clutch in, and before you are about to get back off the clutch in 2nd without blowing the trans/ the motor by over revving, as you about the end of the entry apex instead.
Note, with a auto, this never works out well (rapid downshifting), since the trans will not bang down that fast on the hard braking faster enough, and you find yourself either in a gear too high, or the trans trying to make that last shift down on the way out of the apex isntead.

As for the pedal, elite has just the ticket, but if you don't heal-toe, or the car is more for just street driving, then don't put it on your car.

That is the ticket. The very first thing i bought for my GS MN6 in 2011, elites heel and toe gas pedal. The OEM were too far apart for me. I heel and toe all the time. And the GS's close gear ratios makes this lot of fun.
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