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Old Feb 10, 2018 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Mlcharlestonsc
Better learn to drive it first b4 doing mods you will love it just the way it is. You are going from a PONY car to a supercar completely different driving experience. Lower, meaner, faster...
Supercar?
Sports car..yes.

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Old Feb 10, 2018 | 12:50 PM
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Not a supercar, there are more than a few sedans that can go just as quick. Maybe the ZR1 can be considered a supercar but it still has the same interior trim as the rest of Corvettes. And I don't think there is a Supercar that you can change the oil for $70 (Synthetic) at a dealer and insurance rates are about $100 a month for two drivers.
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Old Feb 10, 2018 | 01:10 PM
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SUPERCAR!?! Maybe.

I don't have a problem with people referring to it by that moniker.

Faster than 85% of production cars on the street... upwards of 95% unless you live in south Florida or Southern California...and costs less than a condo. I'll take it!
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Old Feb 10, 2018 | 01:29 PM
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WOW, I did not realize there would be this much flack about the moniker Supercar. Oh well supercar, sports car, muscle car whatever, can we at least agree and be thankful that the Corvette base, GS, Z etc. Are not Fords....
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Old Feb 10, 2018 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by phileaglesfan
Not a supercar, there are more than a few sedans that can go just as quick. Maybe the ZR1 can be considered a supercar but it still has the same interior trim as the rest of Corvettes. And I don't think there is a Supercar that you can change the oil for $70 (Synthetic) at a dealer and insurance rates are about $100 a month for two drivers.

I was unaware that being unreasonably unaffordable was a prerequisite for supercar status. Duly noted.
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Old Feb 10, 2018 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Randy_in_MD
I was unaware that being unreasonably unaffordable was a prerequisite for supercar status. Duly noted.
I think that's the first prerequisite.

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Old Feb 10, 2018 | 02:02 PM
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10. Supercar with Super Value: As stated earlier, the 2015 Chevrolet Corvette Z06’s real magic comes as much from its price as its performance. There are less than 10 production cars that can outgun it, and all of them cost considerably more than the $78,995 starting price for the coupe ($83,995 for the convertible). I configured a Laguna Blue convertible with Kalahari leather and every possible option (including customized luggage, a car cover and Corvette Museum delivery) and the price was $114,935. This car is a screaming performance bargain (with one of the best V8 exhaust screams you’ll ever hear).

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/kbrauer/2015/02/02/2015-chevrolet-corvette-z06-top-10-reasons-shatters-supercar-category/amp/
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Old Feb 10, 2018 | 07:17 PM
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Supercar, not a supercar, it's not for me to decide, but there is a lot written on the subject---both for and against---of the vette (specifically the Z's) being a supercar.

For me personally, the price tag, the price of an oil change, whether the interior is the same or different... none of that matters. Supercars perform at a level much higher than almost any other car on the road, and they're designed to perform, not to seat 5 adults and have generous trunk space (which takes care of the "sedans" that can match a stringrays performance specs). Supercars don't have to be "exotic". I don't consider my GS a supercar, but I do think the suupercharged ZR1 is, absolutely.
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Originally Posted by Randy_in_MD
SUPERCAR!?! Maybe.

I don't have a problem with people referring to it by that moniker.

Faster than 85% of production cars on the street... upwards of 95% unless you live in south Florida or Southern California...and costs less than a condo. I'll take it!
Randy, you are right on. in my mind, the Corvette does just about everything as good or better than a "super car", 1/4 mile time, 0-60 time, road course worthy, 2 seater, top speed.... the only thing that a Vette doesn't hold up to is the north of 200k price tag

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Old Feb 11, 2018 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by owc6
Well thought-out response.
My sentiments exactly. Just because you stick a 500 plus hp motor in the front does not put a car in to super car category. Apples and oranges, not a mustang but i owned high hp US cars, even the ones that came with Vette engines. You know when you are in a 20 k chassis vs 40 k plus chassis. Lastly the number 3 and 4 vettes that run the gt series only push under or around 500 hp, no street car even with 700 hp will be able to remotely keep up with those cars and the drivers of course. That only means one thing, a driver and a chassis will beat hp on the track anytime. Now, i, for one did not buy a car for just straight quarter mile performance, that for me is boring. I bought one because of the chassis and the hp, which makes this car a super bargain of super cars which you have to pay 2 to 3 times to get.

And when you stick a 700 hp motor in-front of a vette you just have given up that turn and burn prowess, threw the overall balance away. Hp does not win track races, only 1/4 mile races. But to each his own.
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Thank you, this is exactly what I was looking for. It'll definitely be a manual and I'll be taking it to the track every few weeks. 700rwhp and I'll be more than satisfied for quite awhile. How much would you suggest the ls3 over the ls2? I know the ls3 is better but the price difference between the two is enough to buy AND boost the ls2 car for the same as just buying an ls3 car
Most people here relate "track" with a road course and a centri blower is not the best choice for that. However, it's a good choice for the dragstrip. You have the same problem choosing between a M6 and A6.

IIRC and sometimes I don't, the LS3 engine casting had a minor upgrade in either '09 or '10. It dealt mainly with bottom end airflow and rib strength that was needed for the LS9 version. I find no casting number information that disputes or supports that, but then again my '08 service manual is filled with pre'08 info too.
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Old Feb 11, 2018 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr Bee
Supercar, not a supercar, it's not for me to decide, but there is a lot written on the subject---both for and against---of the vette (specifically the Z's) being a supercar.

For me personally, the price tag, the price of an oil change, whether the interior is the same or different... none of that matters. Supercars perform at a level much higher than almost any other car on the road, and they're designed to perform, not to seat 5 adults and have generous trunk space (which takes care of the "sedans" that can match a stringrays performance specs). Supercars don't have to be "exotic". I don't consider my GS a supercar, but I do think the suupercharged ZR1 is, absolutely.
Absolutely correct....a super car doesn't have to be an exotic....but most (if not all) are. And a ZR-1 is simply a faster than average Corvette. Not sure that qualifies it as a super car....
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Old Feb 11, 2018 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by HOXXOH
Most people here relate "track" with a road course and a centri blower is not the best choice for that. However, it's a good choice for the dragstrip. You have the same problem choosing between a M6 and A6.

IIRC and sometimes I don't, the LS3 engine casting had a minor upgrade in either '09 or '10. It dealt mainly with bottom end airflow and rib strength that was needed for the LS9 version. I find no casting number information that disputes or supports that, but then again my '08 service manual is filled with pre'08 info too.

Yeah I won't be doing any road course work. The closest one to me is around 5 hours away so no thanks. It'll be a street/strip car, but mostly driven on nice weekends. Honestly if a stock bottom end LS2 can handle 700rwhp I'll probably just go with that.
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Old Feb 12, 2018 | 09:45 AM
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Thank you, this is exactly what I was looking for. It'll definitely be a manual and I'll be taking it to the track every few weeks. 700rwhp and I'll be more than satisfied for quite awhile. How much would you suggest the ls3 over the ls2? I know the ls3 is better but the price difference between the two is enough to buy AND boost the ls2 car for the same as just buying an ls3 car

Why don't we bring this back on topic huh?


So for this supercar (j/k) the LS2 or LS3 can make very close to the same in power, yes the LS3 is better but if you get a good deal on an LS2 go for it, but I would stay away from 2005's. The sell cheap but they are the bastard year of Corvettes, one off computer, most prone to weird glitches, weakest rear, that annoying having to put it in reverse when you shut it off and so on.
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Originally Posted by DOUG @ ECS
Why don't we bring this back on topic huh?


So for this supercar (j/k) the LS2 or LS3 can make very close to the same in power, yes the LS3 is better but if you get a good deal on an LS2 go for it, but I would stay away from 2005's. The sell cheap but they are the bastard year of Corvettes, one off computer, most prone to weird glitches, weakest rear, that annoying having to put it in reverse when you shut it off and so on.
My gosh I was thinking the same thing. This has gotten so far off the original question......
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Originally Posted by DOUG @ ECS
Why don't we bring this back on topic huh?


So for this supercar (j/k) the LS2 or LS3 can make very close to the same in power, yes the LS3 is better but if you get a good deal on an LS2 go for it, but I would stay away from 2005's. The sell cheap but they are the bastard year of Corvettes, one off computer, most prone to weird glitches, weakest rear, that annoying having to put it in reverse when you shut it off and so on.


For a vendor, you sure don't impress me with your ridiculous assessment of an 05. Are you just as agitated about having to park an auto in park? Would you rather park a manual in neutral?

I haven't had any of the problems with my 05 with 70K+ miles on it as I've read those with newer years have.

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SUPERCARS: (Google, will tell you what you want to know)

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For a vendor, you sure don't impress me with your ridiculous assessment of an 05. Are you just as agitated about having to park an auto in park? Would you rather park a manual in neutral?

I haven't had any of the problems with my 05 with 70K+ miles on it as I've read those with newer years have.
Congrats, you have one, I have worked on hundreds, we have built many fast and reliable 05's but if the choice for me was an 05 or a different car, I would have to figure out what other car I was interested in. That's my opinion from my experience, glad you're happy with yours, take care.

BTW, I was trying to help the OP, not impress YOU!
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Thanks to everyone that provided all the great information. I'll be selling my Mustang here very soon and start making my way into a Corvette
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