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Old Aug 6, 2018 | 07:44 AM
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You should hold out for the stick if that is what you really want.
The C6 actually had more standard transmissions produced than both the C4 and C5 percentage wise.
About 44% of the C6 were stick and you'll have better gas mileage
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Old Aug 6, 2018 | 04:24 PM
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As others have said if you want the manual trans, wait for the right car. I've never owned a C6 A6, but my wife's C7 Z06 is an A8 and as far as I'm concerned it is complete garbage. It completely lets down the driving experience, and manually shifting the A8 is a complete joke. Not trying to troll here, all my sports cars are manual up until my wife's ZL1 Camaro and now her C7Z. It's just my preference. If you wan't the M6 you will be disappointed with the Auto IMO.

I would not worry about the difference in performance, but the enjoyment of the driving experience.

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Old Aug 6, 2018 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by GS982
As others have said if you want the manual trans, wait for the right car. I've never owned a C6 A6, but my wife's C7 Z06 is an A8 and as far as I'm concerned it is complete garbage. It completely lets down the driving experience, and manually shifting the A8 is a complete joke. Not trying to troll here, all my sports cars are manual up until my wife's ZL1 Camaro and now her C7Z. It's just my preference. If you wan't the M6 you will be disappointed with the Auto IMO.

I would not worry about the difference in performance, but the enjoyment of the driving experience.
My brother has a C7 auto and I agree. The C7 auto is just great in auto mode but the paddle shifting experience is imprecise and not much fun. Just let it shift itself.
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Old Aug 8, 2018 | 01:22 PM
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Dunno. AMA Enduro and Hare Scrambles 1977 to 1982, SCCA autocrosser since 1984, time trials since 1994, and road racing since 2003. Formula Vee, Formula Ford, SPO-super production over 2.5 liter, American Sedan and SPU Super Production under 2.5.. A6 in my 2011 base is as much fun as any Hewland or T-5 and in city traffic I have choice of full auto or paddle. I don't race anymore, but still autocross and track days and still have Time Trial instructor license. I disagree with letting it shift itself on track, I have much more control and much smoother launch off corners choosing for myself. my 2 cents.

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Old Aug 8, 2018 | 02:25 PM
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I have both a stick and automatic Corvette.. I would rather drive the 6 speed anytime, it just feels more like a sports car with a stick...WW
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Old Aug 21, 2018 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by TCW
It used to be that automatics were for the family car and manuals were for the Hot Rods. Auto trans have come a long way since then. But until they do away with the torque converter, they will never be considered by some, as performance transmissions.

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If a Koenigsegg Regera can achieve that much power, handling, response, and speed with a torque converter, so can others.
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Old Aug 21, 2018 | 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by toytruckman
After I posted I did find the 'fast-list'. Ok fair, equal enough. Does the dry sump oil system make any difference?

Why is the Grand Sport a tick slower?
Keep in mind the fast list is self-posted. As an example, a bone-stock LS3 recorded 11.71...not sure I would choose which tranny to run based on that list.
You have said you really want a manual...then get a manual. You have weeks or months to look for the car you want. Don't settle for something else just because you couldn't find what you wanted. BTW, they are not hard to find, at all. What methods are you using, and how large a search area are you searching?

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Old Aug 22, 2018 | 11:36 AM
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I remember seeing a dyno test of a dry sump motor that was swapped to wet sump. It picked up 3-4hp
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Old Aug 22, 2018 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by farmington
I remember seeing a dyno test of a dry sump motor that was swapped to wet sump. It picked up 3-4hp
On the corvette, the crank snout is extended to drive the pump, so that would account for the loss.
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Old Aug 22, 2018 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by HOXXOH
It sounds like the GS is your cup of tea. The look you desire and powerful enough for fun, but reliable to drive anywhere at anytime. The only concern would be if you don't do your own oil changes with the dry sump system, even dealers screw it up and kill engines. Learn how it's done or buy an A6 and never worry. The relaxing drives around the lake and dinner out are easier with the A6 that you can let the little woman drive too.
That's crazy. Any decent Chevy Dealership can change the oil on a dry sump system. Do you really think that everyone with a dry sump system changes their own oil?
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Old Aug 22, 2018 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by pdac
That's crazy. Any decent Chevy Dealership can change the oil on a dry sump system. Do you really think that everyone with a dry sump system changes their own oil?
Keyword: "decent" !?!?!?!?
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Old Aug 22, 2018 | 12:48 PM
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Think about the people that get hired to work the oil rack at the dealerships. That’s where problems arise.
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Originally Posted by pdac
That's crazy. Any decent Chevy Dealership can change the oil on a dry sump system. Do you really think that everyone with a dry sump system changes their own oil?
Apparently you haven't read how many dry sump engines have been killed by inept/inexperienced oil change jockeys and usually at dealers. If you own a dry sump system you need to learn the method, whether you change it yourself or to verify the paid person knows the method. Dealerships screw up stuff on cars that are different than the norm more than you think. One broke my mag shock connector when fixing the fuel sending unit and another cracked my rocker panel by not using pucks on the lift. I never go there except for warranty stuff.
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Old Aug 22, 2018 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by HOXXOH
Apparently you haven't read how many dry sump engines have been killed by inept/inexperienced oil change jockeys and usually at dealers. If you own a dry sump system you need to learn the method, whether you change it yourself or to verify the paid person knows the method. Dealerships screw up stuff on cars that are different than the norm more than you think. One broke my mag shock connector when fixing the fuel sending unit and another cracked my rocker panel by not using pucks on the lift. I never go there except for warranty stuff.
That's a fair point. I did not know that that many LS3s were being killed by the dealership but I will look into it.
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