Flood Car Worth Buying?
#22
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Unless it is a really great deal (nearly $14k is not) I would not touch that thing with a ten foot pole. $7,500, max.
#23
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Why take the risk when there a bunch of dry C6s out there for sale.....
You may save a few bucks, but if the electrical problems start to show up, it will cost you more money and headaches.
I wouldn't even consider it.
You may save a few bucks, but if the electrical problems start to show up, it will cost you more money and headaches.
I wouldn't even consider it.
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"Just looking for a reliable C6 to daily".
And you are looking at a flooded car? Seriously?
And you are looking at a flooded car? Seriously?
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#25
Had no idea the car was flooded until after I had already inquired about it and took interest in it. That’s why I came here to ask and see if that would be a reliable choice instead of buying and finding out after the fact.
#26
Race Director
The other issue with salvage title cars is selling them after. Nobody wants them. It's hard to insure them, banks wont loan on them, buyers are turned off by them, they can end up being worth more in parts than as a running driving car.
With the amount of electronics on or under the floor of the c6, I would not even consider it personally, unless I was buying it to strip everything out of and turn into a full on race car.
With the amount of electronics on or under the floor of the c6, I would not even consider it personally, unless I was buying it to strip everything out of and turn into a full on race car.
#27
No way. There are nice older cars available that have not been in a flood. Keep looking. The few thousand $ discount offered to you to get you to buy a flood car will not off set the likely problems. I would think on a humid day with the windows closed there will be an odor/smell.
#28
Instructor
Something else to keep in mind... This video sealed it for me when I was looking. It shows the effects of flood water on wiring. I'd pass.
#31
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I was thinking "Salt or Fresh"? I'm also against and I am a ME with a minor in EE (and I've done Electronics repair before). I'd say it's going to be Some Little New Problem Constantly. Secondly it's going to be a Pig to try and sell Later, since the Bank won't Finance it. The only way I'd touch it was if it was Almost Free and I was Bored. When I was looking I found a 2010 locally for $19k. 32k miles, two sets of wheels and tires w/a Manual trans. The Car looked Perfect. Absolutely Spotless so I drove it. Talking to the seller he says there is one "Slight" problem. "It Has a Salvage Title, my (deceased) brother bought this car and I've had it a year after he died, it was hit in the Rear-end". Looking in the trunk (under the carpet and crawling under the car, I could Not find where anything had been Damaged. Salvage doesn't scare me as bad as Flood (but still a Problem). So I offered him $17k for it with both sets of wheels. He came back at $18k and he'd keep the wheels. I stopped at $17,5k with the wheels and walked. (I found an '09 Lady owned and bought it for 20k later.)
I agree, you could find a Member to go look and drive it but I'd be closer to 10k even if it doesn't have Any Problems Now. The problem is, the dealer is Not Going to be Honest! I'd pull the kick panels and anything I could before I believed it didn't get above the rocker panels. Keep Looking IMO!
I agree, you could find a Member to go look and drive it but I'd be closer to 10k even if it doesn't have Any Problems Now. The problem is, the dealer is Not Going to be Honest! I'd pull the kick panels and anything I could before I believed it didn't get above the rocker panels. Keep Looking IMO!
#33
Team Owner
Don't quite understand this myself, but it appears car sold at auction for $5575 one year ago. But the mileage shown then vs the mileage now does not make sense.
Either way, auction price is more representative of value than dealer's current asking price, IMO. 1G1YY26U865101227
Either way, auction price is more representative of value than dealer's current asking price, IMO. 1G1YY26U865101227
Last edited by PRNDL; 10-20-2018 at 09:56 PM.
#34
Nah. I'd pass on that.
#37
Two thoughts
1. Water to the floor boards could really mean it was much higher, but rounded down to sell at higher price!
2. Assuming you have one, what would your significant other start saying if the car became a money pit?
1. Water to the floor boards could really mean it was much higher, but rounded down to sell at higher price!
2. Assuming you have one, what would your significant other start saying if the car became a money pit?
#38
Don't quite understand this myself, but it appears car sold at auction for $5575 one year ago. But the mileage shown then vs the mileage now does not make sense.
Either way, auction price is more representative of value than dealer's current asking price, IMO. 1G1YY26U865101227
Either way, auction price is more representative of value than dealer's current asking price, IMO. 1G1YY26U865101227
Hence the ECM, BCM, and even the ICP where all water damaged beyond repair, and when the car was rebuild, use parts where used to try to get it all back together.
Since it was as savage title car, GM pretty much washes it's hands of any GM ESC service (need to correct the mileage now), so would bank that at least the ICP shows a much higher mileage from the used car it was pulled out of, if not the ECM that was pulled out of another car too (both areas where the mileage of the car is stored and if just one of the module only is damaged and needs to be replace with the other still good, SPS will pull the mileage from the other during SPS to maintain the correct mileage of the car..
Hell, in the lads case that is rebuilding the C7 flood damage car, the replacement EBCM has to be reflashed to the car, and on the C7;s, Gm had throw a curve ball that requires that the cars security code be input into SPS programming to flash the module. So as you guessed it, salvage title car, and even with a TDS sps subscrition to SPS flash the modules, GM is not releasing the needed security code to flash the EBCM. Hell, even with the car rebuilt and now having a rebuilt title, GM will still not give him the security coded needed for SPS flashing.
So again, flood damage C6 salvage title, run away as fast as you can. It not like an old car of the 60's that was a snap to bring back from the flood damage once you fished them out of the lake since it just a mater of rebuilding mech parts that water did them, But the C6 has too many electronic parts that take such out, often are more expensive than the cars work even if used to replace, and with GM now throwing in the hurdles too on firmware flashing, just not worth the nightmare long term isntead.
Last edited by Dano523; 10-21-2018 at 09:27 PM.
#39
Race Director
These cars have way to many electronics that could be damaged due to flood water. Too many nice cars out there for sale. Pass on the flood cars. With all the floods and hurricanes lately there may be be a lot of these water damaged cars offered for sale. Do your homework and be sure the car is not a flood car. Look under the seat for dead fish which is a good indication.
Last edited by cmonkey713; 10-22-2018 at 06:30 PM.
#40
These cars have way to many electronics that could be damaged due to flood water. Too many nice cars out there for sale. Pass on the flood cars. With all the floods and hurricanes lately there may be be a lot of these water damaged cars offered for sale. Do your homework and be sure the car is not a flood car. Look under the seat for dead fish which is a good indication.
With the amount of flood damage cars on the market now, and some of them not branded as flood damage cars either/yet (paper work has no catch up to them yet), it's is scary trying to find a clean car, from a nightmare just glancing at the car to begin with.