Bruze

Yup, engineering is all about compromising.

Gear too high and you lose low-end power. Gear too low and you lose speed. Planing hulls are great for speed, but suck in rough seas. Jets go really fast, but need long runways. Complex mechanisms can accomplish great things, but are more prone to breaking.

Keyless entries are great for cars, as long as they work -- you never have to take the fob out of your pocket, but aside from that there is no advantage -- but have finicky electronics, and if they go haywire at the wrong time they can leave you in a world of hurt.

Trying to improve upon a mechanical key is akin to coming up with a new shape for the wheel.



And, to no one in particular: I have NO PROBLEM-O getting in and out of my C6!

owc6

Because the doors are really long. ;P

That said, I had more than one car over the years where the keys have failed, heck I have one currently (2003 Ram 1500 which is teetering on the edge again as we speak, even though it failed once already and had to be replaced ).

Mechanical isn't inherently better the electrical , as long as safeguards are built in (which they are), and people understand what they are buying.

I'm a self-proclaimed technoramus, and when I got my 2005, I understood that there were things I didn't understand, cracked a book ( in the glovebox), and said "OK, new stuff, and I will adapt." I didn't understand how any of it worked (tech-wise), but I did understand that it was different than before, and I endeavored to understand how it works now, even I I will never understand what makes it work.

I don't need to understand the magic of how an electrical lock works any more than I understand how a tumbler or key lock works. Can anyone really explain the why of how electromagnetic induction works? All I need to know is when I put a dead recognized fob (with or w/o a battery even installed) into the glove box slot with the buttons to the right, It will start the car (provided the car battery is up to snuff).

Ok, rant over, whew!

GTs 58

The truck designers at GM are still waiting for that new wheel to fill in their wheelwells. I see it's almost ready.

ontime

as an engineer that has been working from what was modern technology 45 years ago to the modern technology of today and yes I am still at it. Cant retire keep getting sucked into the next new thing. Here is our motto " if its not broke we didn't put enough features in it"
Please be kind to the people asking for advice or help. For most the reason they ask is because it is a new experience for them. Even if you think it is a ridiculous question take the time to explain and you might find you make a friend along the way. You might need that persons help someday when you get tripped up on an issue.
I learned something here tonight about the difference between the early model years and my 2013 thanks to all of you. This is a great place

marinablu67

Hopefully the OP has a smart phone? I downloaded the manual for my car as a PDF file. It's icon is right on the home page of the phone. But I'm not that senile yet that I don't remember important things that I read, like getting in, or out of the car when the battery dies!

Bruze

In my entire life, I think I might have replaced one or two door locks and these would have been "in the early days" when I bought and drove junkers. I've had sloppy ignition switches and I've had keys that were almost worn smooth but cannot recall any of them failing. (Disclaimer: That may not be true cuz I'm old and have dementia)

So if the only upside to keyless entry is that you don't have to take the fob out of your pocket, to me all the sensitive gimickry isn't worth it. The overwhelming number of fob threads here proves my point.

It's time for you to cave!

Bruze

LowRyter

so why couldn't they move mechanical mechanism into the B pillars?

I still think the window indexing plays into it

owc6

They did.

cottonant

To clarify my comment above regarding missing some of the simple things in life, i. e. the key; the good ole Keyless Entry Remote Control attached to a key is a simple stupid system that has never failed me since when the remote battery dies or the remote fails, one only has to use the key to get in and start the car.

But, this makes too much sense in our modern day system of manufacturing over engineered products, some designed to be complicated and some designed to force us to buy proprietary products from said manufacturer in the future.

Planned obsolescence is not unique to Apple (poor Tim Cook...he only gets 100+ million per year in salary).

Cherokee Nation

Hum...You said the windows was up.

Cherokee Nation

I see that you caught that to.

Bruze

Thanks. Attachment 48331950

But no response on that from the OP.

owc6

And now we're left a wonderin'

Cherokee Nation

Yup....

Bruze

cottonant

Crappy weather

Bruze

Old people have nothing better to do, and can't get out of their chairs, couch, bed, toilet, etc. . .

TucoTom

The C10 Corvette will have a chip that's implanted in your *** and you won't need a key or FOB.....

the kid C6

[QUOTE=LowRyter;1598932055]I still think the window indexing plays into it[/QUOTE

Since most modern cars have keyless entry fobs, and their windows don't index, I don't think that's it. ]