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Old Dec 15, 2019 | 12:36 AM
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Ok. So I'm planning mods for my 2009 base c6 w 33k miles. I thought I was gonna do: headers Xpipe Intake and tune and call it good. BUt then my buddy w a 2018 zo6 insisted j wouldnt be happy unless I did a procharger.
I want a reliable car, that makes a lotta power. One of my questions is, are headers, Xpipe, CAI and tune prerequisites for a procharger? Or are they not supporting mods? I would like to go one step at a time. But dont want to spend money twice... thanks in advance.
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Everything but the CAI will work with the procharger. Obviously you will need a retune with the blower.
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Everything but the CAI will work with the procharger. Obviously you will need a retune with the blower.
so I would need all those things for a procharger? All supporting mods?
Are they necessary for a procharger?
wanna know if I'm building towards that? Ir it's more expensive that way...

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so I would need all those things for a procharger? All supporting mods?
Are they necessary for a procharger?
wanna know if I'm building towards that? Ir it's more expensive that way...
Not need, but want. You also might want an edelbrock or other blower. Your bolt ons are a great start, and you may find its all you want out of it. If mot, no big deal.

I wouldnt do an intake personally. The zr1 uses the szme intake, it isnt a restriction and the aftermarket ones are expensive as hell.
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Old Dec 15, 2019 | 02:23 AM
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My 2009 is putting 450 whp down with just intake, cam and headers. I am very happy with the power, and have no plans in the near future to add more power. Might change in the future, but very happy with the power. My future mods will be handling based mods. With traction control off, I can't use all the power in 1st or 2nd.
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Old Dec 15, 2019 | 03:19 AM
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My 2009 is putting 450 whp down with just intake, cam and headers. I am very happy with the power, and have no plans in the near future to add more power. Might change in the future, but very happy with the power. My future mods will be handling based mods. With traction control off, I can't use all the power in 1st or 2nd.
Sounds like you need better tires.
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Originally Posted by Verrückt ZR1
Sounds like you need better tires.
I have bf Goodrich sport comp 2's, but don't think any street tire will give enough grip to use all the power. Not in first for sure.
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Originally Posted by helomech
My 2009 is putting 450 whp down with just intake, cam and headers. I am very happy with the power, and have no plans in the near future to add more power. Might change in the future, but very happy with the power. My future mods will be handling based mods. With traction control off, I can't use all the power in 1st or 2nd.
nice. What's the power difference between just headers, and headers/cam?
does the cam make it obnoxious to drive around with?
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nice. What's the power difference between just headers, and headers/cam?
does the cam make it obnoxious to drive around with?
Well with a 15% drivetrain loss, that would make it 510 +/- at the crank, and the stock car put 436 at the crank. Driving around with the cam took some practice, but now I hardly ever notice it, unless I am idling around and don't let the clutch out correctly. It does not like to cruise around at less than 1500rpm, it will give you a slight rocking back and forth, but above 1500 I don't notice anything.
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I have bf Goodrich sport comp 2's, but don't think any street tire will give enough grip to use all the power. Not in first for sure.
I'm making over 600rwp, and my Toyo R888R's hold the power very well. Stickier compounds are the way to go.
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Originally Posted by Verrückt ZR1
I'm making over 600rwp, and my Toyo R888R's hold the power very well. Stickier compounds are the way to go.
Yes, but how long do they last. I have only had my car for 3 months, and already put 5k miles on it. My biggest concern isn't top grip. I drive 400 miles one way to work, so I need a compromise. Also is that with all traction control turned off? Not saying you are wrong, never had 600 hp, but I do find it hard to believe that tires on the street can hold up to 600 hp. No doubt on a track, but does it really hold up in street conditions?
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Originally Posted by helomech
Well with a 15% drivetrain loss, that would make it 510 +/- at the crank, and the stock car put 436 at the crank. Driving around with the cam took some practice, but now I hardly ever notice it, unless I am idling around and don't let the clutch out correctly. It does not like to cruise around at less than 1500rpm, it will give you a slight rocking back and forth, but above 1500 I don't notice anything.
got it. Just watched your dyno video too. Car looks awesome!
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Originally Posted by kite167
got it. Just watched your dyno video too. Car looks awesome!
thanks, I love it. Thought I would want more power, but I don't feel I can use more. Want suspension mods next.
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Originally Posted by Verrückt ZR1
I'm making over 600rwp, and my Toyo R888R's hold the power very well. Stickier compounds are the way to go.
ZR1 tranny ratio are much different (taller) than LS3 tranny ratio.
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See, no traction. And I just rolled into it.
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Originally Posted by helomech
Yes, but how long do they last. I have only had my car for 3 months, and already put 5k miles on it. My biggest concern isn't top grip. I drive 400 miles one way to work, so I need a compromise. Also is that with all traction control turned off? Not saying you are wrong, never had 600 hp, but I do find it hard to believe that tires on the street can hold up to 600 hp. No doubt on a track, but does it really hold up in street conditions?
So long as they're heated, they hook very well. You hit the nail on the head, though. They'll only last 6k-8k miles. I chose to sacrifice longevity for performance, but then again, I hardly drive the car. Everything is a trade-off, they say.
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Originally Posted by helomech
See, no traction. And I just rolled into it.
https://youtu.be/83kuCuZowgc
That is not "rolling in to it" and you have horrible tires!
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That is not "rolling in to it" and you have horrible tires!
I was in gear, and just went to the floor. Didn't stomp it down. Once it broke loose I just kept it going. The tires are okay on some roads, others they suck. Lafeyette la, roads really suck. S decent asphalt road and they do a bit better.

I would rather not change ties 4 times a year.

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Old Dec 15, 2019 | 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by kite167
so I would need all those things for a procharger? All supporting mods?
Are they necessary for a procharger?
wanna know if I'm building towards that? Ir it's more expensive that way...
You most certainly can just throw a Procharger or A&A or ECS kit on the car with everything else being stock, that’s what they made the kits for. Now if you want to get everything out of the blower a lot of other mods are needed and certainly beneficial.

Drivability will be based on cam/clutch/flywheel/tune

How much power do you wanna make? And what’s the primary use of the car gonna be? Do you know which type of blower you’d prefer? Intended use may dictate a lot of these questions, ultimately it comes down to what everything in life already does....💰💵

Sky is the limit is the cash is available

Personally I would want my Corvette to be my daily, definitely not a modified one making decent power which I’d say is north of 600whp, but that’s just one dudes opinion. You definitely can daily a vette or one making decent power I’d just rather not. Don’t worry about drive train loss or crank HP, it’s useless information in the mod world. WHP is the only the needed.
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If you're considering a blower you'll definitely want 1-7/8" headers, and don't waste your money on a CAI. I think you should get the headers and tune, and take it from there
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