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Old Apr 12, 2020 | 05:44 PM
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I also checked the ohms of both front sensors and they were 6.7 and 7.0.
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Use a 12 volt test light if you have one...the pink wire ( pin D) is the 12 volt feed...when test light connected to a good ground the test light will light if you have 12 volts at D...now switch the test light clip to battery positive or pin D...when you touch the tip of the test light to Pin E (heater ground) the test light will either light key ON or if not it will flash or blink when the engine is running...Watch that video !!...I don’t have service info for your car so I don’t know if it’s grounded continuously or pulse width modulated by the engine computer...the computer closes the ground on and then (pulses it) off to maintain the heater at a certain temperature.
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Old Apr 12, 2020 | 06:04 PM
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I also checked the ohms of both front sensors and they were 6.7 and 7.0.
those numbers should be good if I remember !!
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Old Apr 12, 2020 | 06:47 PM
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Use a 12 volt test light if you have one...the pink wire ( pin D) is the 12 volt feed...when test light connected to a good ground the test light will light if you have 12 volts at D...now switch the test light clip to battery positive or pin D...when you touch the tip of the test light to Pin E (heater ground) the test light will either light key ON or if not it will flash or blink when the engine is running...Watch that video !!...I don’t have service info for your car so I don’t know if it’s grounded continuously or pulse width modulated by the engine computer...the computer closes the ground on and then (pulses it) off to maintain the heater at a certain temperature.
Just used a test light with the wire hooked to the positive post on the battery. The light was flashing on and off when touching the E pin.
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Old Apr 12, 2020 | 07:10 PM
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Now it’s about 60 outside and I ran the car for about 5 minutes after clearing the codes and they have not come on again. They aren’t pending either.
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Originally Posted by Belmont148133
Just used a test light with the wire hooked to the positive post on the battery. The light was flashing on and off when touching the E pin.
If it was flashing we know the ECM is controlling the ground !!...was this with the engine running ??!
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Originally Posted by C5 Diag
If it was flashing we know the ECM is controlling the ground !!...was this with the engine running ??!
Yes, the engine was running when it was flashing. It was a steady light not running but on the “on” position.
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Now it’s about 60 outside and I ran the car for about 5 minutes after clearing the codes and they have not come on again. They aren’t pending either.
OK, see what happens !!
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OK, see what happens !!
Very odd. Like I mentioned before, it seems to only do this when the temps are below 45 (estimate). I’ve ran the car over the past few weeks after having this same issue and didn’t have any problems until today. Today was the first time starting it again below 45. Also, I don’t know if it matters, but there was a large amount of condensation from the exhaust that ended up on the ground. It soaked my garage floor.
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Yes, the engine was running when it was flashing. It was a steady light not running but on the “on” position.
If you have the FSM I would look to see if it is indeed a PWM ground...should the light be steady while running and the driver was stuck closed (always grounded) or the circuit wasn’t being grounded that may set all 4 DTC’s...in that case it may be a bad ECM !!
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Very odd. Like I mentioned before, it seems to only do this when the temps are below 45 (estimate). I’ve ran the car over the past few weeks after having this same issue and didn’t have any problems until today. Today was the first time starting it again below 45. Also, I don’t know if it matters, but there was a large amount of condensation from the exhaust that ended up on the ground. It soaked my garage floor.
Odd this is temperature dependent !!...the ECM usually checks the heater circuit at start up...like I had mentioned it looks at the O2 sensor millivoltage to decrease to after start up !!
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Originally Posted by C5 Diag
Odd this is temperature dependent !!...the ECM usually checks the heater circuit at start up...like I had mentioned it looks at the O2 sensor millivoltage to decrease to after start up !!
Okay, if this continues, I will probably look into an ECM to see if that might resolve the issue. I’ve checked all of the plugs and everything seems to be fine. It runs fine when the CEL pops for these as well, so it’s not noticeable in the car, however, it’s due for inspection and I can’t have any codes.
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Okay, if this continues, I will probably look into an ECM to see if that might resolve the issue. I’ve checked all of the plugs and everything seems to be fine. It runs fine when the CEL pops for these as well, so it’s not noticeable in the car, however, it’s due for inspection and I can’t have any codes.
The only other thing I can think of is if you have a bad pin fitment at the fuse especially when it’s cold...you may be losing power instead of ground...pull the fuse out and see if you can see wear marks on each of the fuse blades...no marks mean that blade is not making a tight fit into the fusebox !!...to troubleshoot this I would hook up my scope to either of the fuse terminals and see if the 12 volt signal drops out while the car is running !!

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The only other thing I can think of is if you have a bad pin fitment at the fuse especially when it’s cold...you may be losing power instead of ground...pull the fuse out and see if you can see wear marks on each of the fuse blades...no marks mean that blade is not making a tight fit into the fusebox !!...to troubleshoot this I would hook up my scope to either of the fuse terminals and see if the 12 volt signal drops out while the car is running !!
i just checked it and the fuse was slightly loose in the box. It seems that the pins are slightly separated. I’ll try to use my picks to push them back together.
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i just checked it and the fuse was slightly loose in the box. It seems that the pins are slightly separated. I’ll try to use my picks to push them back together.
That may have been the problem !!...yes, try a small pick and see if you can tighten them up...I’ve heard of some melting a little solder on the fuse blades to make a tighter fit !!!
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That may have been the problem !!...yes, try a small pick and see if you can tighten them up...I’ve heard of some melting a little solder on the fuse blades to make a tighter fit !!!
Hopefully this is it. I appreciate all of the info and your time! Thanks!
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Hopefully this is it. I appreciate all of the info and your time! Thanks!
No problem !!...let us know if it works...may help someone else out !!
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