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Old Jun 14, 2020 | 02:23 PM
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this has probably been asked many times before, but here goes mine. Have a 09 coupe w/19000 miles. Coming home on turn pike last Sunday the check engine light came on. All functions are working fine. Did not go into a limp mode. I recently replaced the battery the week before. Our trusty mechanic scanned the codes and reported po171-00 and po174-00.(fuel system lean bank 1-2). conversation with fellow corvette owners similar problems had happened to them. There solution was the "o" ring in the back of the intake manifold was bad. Apparently GM had a recall or service alert on this situation. My car is 09, is the dealer obligated to fix this or is its on me? or is it soom other problem altogether ..any one have a solution on this.? I can take the manifold off myself. Im 75 years old but could get it done with my mechanic abilities. Just wandering if something else maybe going on. Any help would be appreciated . than ks in advance.
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Don’t know about the o ring and TSB on same but could be a problem with air flow around the MAF sensor. Look for a loose clamp or misaligned sensor. There was a problem in the ‘08-09 timeframe where air entering through holes in the bumper and at the seam at the bottom of the shroud would cause the lean codes you pulled. Easy solution was to tape the holes and seam with A/C metal tape.

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TSB'S are not like a recall. They cost to get them done.
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TSB'S are not like a recall. They cost to get them done.
Not true, TSB's will be paid for by GM but you have to have the issues associated with the TSB unlike a recall where every affected car is repaired regardless of its status

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Not on an 11-year-old car.
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Old Jun 14, 2020 | 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 449er
Not true, TSB's will be paid for by GM but you have to have the issues associated with the TSB unlike a recall where every affected car is repaired regardless of its status
TSB's will be free of charge in a car that is still under the warranty that is still active, or if the dealer decides to do a "goodwill adjustment"
Other than that, the owner foots the bill.
Take the 2005 Manual column lock issue as an example. There is a TSB, which will cost the owner approx $450.00 to get done at a dealer. Unless it is a garage queen, each and every 2005 C6 manual vehicle will have this issue in due time. It is not a recall, only a Technical service bulletin because it is not a safety hazard, but it will prevent the car from starting.
I doubt that GM will offer any goodwill gestures to a 15 year old vehicle. They have enough issues on their new vehicles.
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Originally Posted by 4SUMERZ
TSB's will be free of charge in a car that is still under the warranty that is still active, or if the dealer decides to do a "goodwill adjustment"
Other than that, the owner foots the bill.
Take the 2005 Manual column lock issue as an example. There is a TSB, which will cost the owner approx $450.00 to get done at a dealer. Unless it is a garage queen, each and every 2005 C6 manual vehicle will have this issue in due time. It is not a recall, only a Technical service bulletin because it is not a safety hazard, but it will prevent the car from starting.
I doubt that GM will offer any goodwill gestures to a 15 year old vehicle. They have enough issues on their new vehicles.
I don't agree, my car ( a 2013 ) is not under warranty but the TSB for the leaking gas tank fittings will be paid for by GM as long as my car is less than 10years old & less than 120,000 miles
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Originally Posted by 449er
I don't agree, my car ( a 2013 ) is not under warranty but the TSB for the leaking gas tank fittings will be paid for by GM as long as my car is less than 10years old & less than 120,000 miles
I believe that is a courtesy GM is extending to Corvette owners due to the hit or miss problems associated with the gas fume issue.
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Originally Posted by NDMIKE88
I believe that is a courtesy GM is extending to Corvette owners due to the hit or miss problems associated with the gas fume issue.
I have a letter from GM telling me to take my car to a Chevy dealer to have this issue fixed free of charge if I experience the fuel smell issue....
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I have a letter from GM telling me to take my car to a Chevy dealer to have this issue fixed free of charge if I experience the fuel smell issue....
Let me try it a different way because clearly, you are not getting it.

The free of charge fix is a courtesy being extended to that one single individual TSB. It is not a blanket free of charge offer for ALL TSB.

To the OP, the dealer is not obligated to fix it. It may not be an o-ring at the back of the intake. Could be any air leak after the MAF. Could be the fuel pump going bad. Could be a number of things. Think there needs to be more investigation done before you go taking things apart. A smoke test would be a good start.
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going to go over all that was suggested. air sensor was cleaned, any connection ,any air connections, anything I checked will be revisited. thank you
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so today I ve disconnected all vacuum lines from throttle body, cleaned the throttle body, disconnected anything else related. and still have the check engine light on.what else can I try..Getting frustrated . the car runs great but has P171 and174 code ????????
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Have you checked the wiring and the connector for the heated O2 sensors to assure they are not contacting the exhaust.
Other than that, the evap system can also have a leak in one of the lines.

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