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Old Jun 25, 2021 | 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Racingswh
I don't have a lot of street driving experience in them so the only kind of rev matching I know how to do is heel and toe downshifting when I am engaging the proper gear for an approaching corner. I was just curious if you were trying to get the car into a lower gear smoothly in preparation for an upcoming corner and for that I may have had some ideas.

Have fun with your car and enjoy it as often as you can!!
I appreciate the explanation.... and advice.
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Old Jun 26, 2021 | 10:25 AM
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I wear EEEE width shoes, no need for a pedal modification. I have to be careful to not accidentally hit the throttle when I don't mean to.
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Old Jul 2, 2021 | 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by lowbuck72
The car may be a hot rod, but 95% of the time you don't drive it like a hot rod. I've been driving manuals for the past 50 years. One thing you notice and I hate about modern cars with manuals is rev hang. The revs drop instantly on my C3. On my M6 C6 I shift slowly enough to let the rpm drop on each upshift. That way the trans just about drops into the next gear. Conversely, I blip the throttle on each downshift, using my ears and gut to manually rev match. I never downshift into first if I'm moving. The C5/C6/C7 will never shift as nice an old Muncie, or even a new Camaro, just physics, I like driving fast , but I'm not risking damaging my trans. My nephew blew his trans on his Z06 at a track day at Buttonwillow, and I've blown many a VW transaxle bracket racing back in the day, but those were relative cheap and easy fixes.
By inserting "modern cars" you're making it plain that this is a (relatively) new phenomena - would you mind expanding on this? Why would auto makers begin engineering cars/transmissions with more rev hand, i.e., so that revs quickly drop back to idle or near-idle speeds in between shifts? There must be a reason or reasons.
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Old Jul 2, 2021 | 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by DerrickW
By inserting "modern cars" you're making it plain that this is a (relatively) new phenomena - would you mind expanding on this? Why would auto makers begin engineering cars/transmissions with more rev hand, i.e., so that revs quickly drop back to idle or near-idle speeds in between shifts? There must be a reason or reasons.
I think it's just typical of modern cars because they are made to be softer and easier to drive. A heavier flywheel is what makes the revs hang. Heavier flywheels are easier to leave from a stop with and don't chatter.
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Originally Posted by Solaris
I think it's just typical of modern cars because they are made to be softer and easier to drive. A heavier flywheel is what makes the revs hang. Heavier flywheels are easier to leave from a stop with and don't chatter.
No, the slow rev drop is an emissions thing, the ECU is keeping the throttle open a little because if it slams shut there will be excess fuel coming off the walls of the intake manifold and causing a rich condition that the catalyst can't deal with. Keeping a little more airflow lets it burn cleanly. You can program this out with a tune.
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Old Jul 3, 2021 | 11:44 PM
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I said modern, but even back in '68, air cooled VW's had a vacuum operated linkage on the carb that slowed the throttle closing when you took your foot off the gas (for emmisions). We have a '12 Honda Fit and a '16 Honda HR-V both with manuals and the rev hang is annoying to say the least. It's like a built-in non-rev-matching feature, My non-emmisions carburated cars shift so sweetly, especially the T5 in my '72 Corvette, I can shift smoothly without using the clutch.
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Originally Posted by lowbuck72
I said modern, but even back in '68, air cooled VW's had a vacuum operated linkage on the carb that slowed the throttle closing when you took your foot off the gas (for emmisions). We have a '12 Honda Fit and a '16 Honda HR-V both with manuals and the rev hang is annoying to say the least. It's like a built-in non-rev-matching feature, My non-emmisions carburated cars shift so sweetly, especially the T5 in my '72 Corvette, I can shift smoothly without using the clutch.
VW and emissions. That’s a laugh! They are the smelliest cars ever built. They have to run rich so they don’t self-immolate.
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Old Jul 5, 2021 | 10:37 PM
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I kinda like the way they smell, air cooled ones anyway. Still got my '65 Ghia, 1700 lb, 2110cc, dual Dellortos, 12 lb flywheel, no rev hang here, quicker than a Civic SI, simple as a brick, built for heel and toeing, the complete antithesis of my C6, but just as much fun.
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