Oil Filters, How tight do you go ?
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Oil Filters, How tight do you go ?
When you change the shorty oil filter on a LS2, how tight do you go with it ? just use your palm and tighten it as much as possible by hand, or use a removal tool in reverse ? What say ye ?
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I just hand tighten it but I do get it as tight as I can without using a filter wrench
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No ... you don't tighten it down "as tight as you can with your hand" ... if you do, you might never get it off at the next oil change.
Just snug it down good .... My advice would be to tighten it with your hand until it starts to get just a little tight (slight resistance) ... then maybe another 1/4 of a turn.
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Well my experience runs with older Chevrolet engines, even back to the canister types and even back when the oil filters were more exposed as in the Gen 1-2 blocks, so the present layout is a bit confined as is with the LS series of engines and the smaller PF48 filters. But I always dry my hands and once I refill the oil filter 3/4 of the way to the top I reinstall a new filter and I tighten it as far as I can by hand and I have never had a leak or spill from a change and I have done about 50 to 75 filter & oil changes, but I like to know how all of you do something just to be up on my schooling !
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The most important thing about putting on a new oil filter is to put a bead of oil on the filter gasket before putting it on the block. On my "last and final" oil change from the GM dealer, they likely didn't oil the gasket plus they super tightened the filter on and in the Spring, I couldn't get the thing off the block without beating it off with cold chiesel.
I was a bit nervous about doing it, but I had no other choice. I had tried every other means.
This is what the filter looked like after it was removed.
I was a bit nervous about doing it, but I had no other choice. I had tried every other means.
This is what the filter looked like after it was removed.
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What i have done since I stopped using the cannister filters was tighten it down until the gasket touches. Take a sharpie and draw a line on the bottom of the tilter, then turn it 3/4 of a turn. By hand, wrench or whatever else you may have that fits up in there. No more than that. And you prelube the gasket.
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I always use a tiny amount of M/P grease on the gasket, and I ask questions like this for one reason, and that is the "New" people who, who just might ask the same question, and not wanting to be labeled as a novice or foolish and I do so not because I'm an idiot, but I really want to remove any stigma that new folks might harbor within. There is never one single posting, ( Ok maybe one) about how great the service appointment was at the wonderful Chevy dealership, almost never. And that is because Chevrolet/Gm only purpose in developing a new vehicle and all of the rushing PR campaigning is to in no small measure is to remove as much of your money in one simple transaction as is humanly possible, and they do it because once you mistakenly return to said dealership because of the downpour of notices they receive and once they find out just what has happened as they are informed of the price and degree of the repair or adjustment to their personal wealth deduction of cost, only then is the poor or soon to be poor new customer aware of what they have done. And I have never met one single person who feels filled with comfort or reassurance in the purchase they just committed themselves too. So if I can aske a question like I have, it is not in my vanity to feel foolish, it is to reinforce the new member here who would like to ask a question, but are perhaps a bit timid in asking said question. The forum is seldom kind in some it's members attitudes towards the uninformed or new members. And such is the burden of the new corvette owner these days.
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I put a small amount of oil on the gasket, hand tighten and then use the oil filter wrench to tighten a little more. I believe about a quarter turn and that works for me.
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I use a filter socket and a breaker bar to make sure it's good and torqued on. Don't want to lose an oil filter and an engine right. Better to be safe than blown motor!
I also use a good bead of silicone around the air filter and use flex tape to seal up the drain pan bolt. If it's good enough to build a boat with that's gotta be good enough right?
I also use a good bead of silicone around the air filter and use flex tape to seal up the drain pan bolt. If it's good enough to build a boat with that's gotta be good enough right?
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I always use a tiny amount of M/P grease on the gasket, and I ask questions like this for one reason...how great the service appointment was...Chevrolet/Gm only purpose in developing a new vehicle...is to remove as much of your money in one simple transaction as is humanly possible...because of the downpour of notices they receive...only then is the poor or soon to be poor new customer aware of what they have done...And such is the burden of the new corvette owner these days.
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Anyone ever reads shop manuals ever. I buy a set with all my vettes. All these methods mentioned here are from 1970,s. Shop manual specifies 15 ft lbs for 11GS and that is what i use UPF 48 R. I never had problem removing it either. Get with the times guys! ( yes i prefill the filter and put some fresh oil on the rubber seal)
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Been putting oil filters on for 52 years. I put a little oil on the gasket and tighten as much as I can by hand. In those 52 years I'm sure my strength was different at various times in my life, yet in the thousands of filters I've put on I never had one leak.
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x3 for 3/4 turn its printed on many filters. Not tight enough youre gonna have a problem.
Too tight it can pooch the seal or make it impossible to remove.
Too tight it can pooch the seal or make it impossible to remove.
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Fill filter to near full with fresh oil. Dip finger in oil, lube filter gasket. Turn on by hand. When gasket contacts surface of filter housing and the is no looseness anymore, turn an additional turn. Usually, can do this by hand.
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Usually about a full turn after it starts snugging up.