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Well I can tell this has been touched on 1000 times and bear with me because I haven’t even had my c6 for a week yet. I’m hearing a lot of horror stories about how bad the harmonic balancer are on our cars. Do almost all c6s need them replaced? Does anyone have higher end mileage and has NOT replaced their balance? I’m at 87k on my c6 and I’m not having any issues and the balancer seems to be flush and not wobbling with car running. I can’t seem to tell if it was replaced but man am I scared haha. I do not want to spend that money to fix it and I definitely don’t want to do it myself! Can anyone ease my mind?
If it's not making noise and not wobbling then don't worry about it.. there's lots of people here running the OEM balancer and have never had issues. It's not like it's just going to one data catastrophicly fail on you. It gives plenty of warning signs like wobbling and sporadic squeaking. When that starts to happen then you'll want to consider replacing it.
There are plenty of cars here that have well over 100,000 miles on the original balancer. Like noted above, you will get plenty of warning when it starts to go. Don't worry about it and have fun with your new car. If you start hearing chirping or see your tensioner pulley shaking wildly, take a look down at your balancer and see if it is wobbling. Until then, drive it!!
The balancer replacement labor charge by a shop is pricey.
Maybe, eyeball it when you're occasionally under the hood, maybe every oil change, to see if there's any wobbling.
Well I can tell this has been touched on 1000 times and bear with me because I haven’t even had my c6 for a week yet. I’m hearing a lot of horror stories about how bad the harmonic balancer are on our cars. Do almost all c6s need them replaced? Does anyone have higher end mileage and has NOT replaced their balance? I’m at 87k on my c6 and I’m not having any issues and the balancer seems to be flush and not wobbling with car running. I can’t seem to tell if it was replaced but man am I scared haha. I do not want to spend that money to fix it and I definitely don’t want to do it myself! Can anyone ease my mind?
Your profile is silent on year of your C6, but I've had my '05 since new. Now at approx. 60K miles & have never had a problem with the HB. Yes, there have been many postings about bad HB's but on the other hand, those are in the minority compared to all C6's out there. Mine has shown a bit of wobble but has never got any worse & there's no belt squeal or other noise, so I follow the adage..."If it ain't broke, don't fix it!". Keep an eye on yours, but if you don't hear or see anything unusual, leave it alone.
This topic has been bantered around many times.....some guys say a little wobble is o-k, others say any wobble and it's toast!! I have an '05 with 36K on it and just replaced it. Others have said they've never had a problem. It's a pricy job if you can't do it yourself but it's not a terrible project if you're handy. Take a close look at the balancer at idle with a flashlight and see if you notice any wobble. If none or very little you're probably good. If it's fairly noticeable you're probably headed for a replacement. Also possible it's been done. If so there's probably an ATI or PowerBond label on the front of it. Bottom line is that it is a high failure item on all C-6's. Was a factory defective part from the get go. The balancer is two pieces, an outer and an inner with an elastomer band between the two. The elastomer begins to fail and work it's way out which causes the wobble. Very few guys have had a catastrophic failure where it literally flies apart. You'll usually get plenty of notice by way of a squeaky drive belt. The belt has to ride absolutely square in the balancer not to squeak, therefore the wobble causes the squeak as the belt is actually being "pinched" in it's grooves. Hope this helps. Don't let it keep you up at night, just something to be aware of!!
Thank all of you for your insight and thoughts. I’ll probably wait now and keep an eye on it. The only mechanical item I replaced was the alternator because the factory one was anemic. I really do love this car and have no plans on replacing it. I receive compliments everywhere I take it. So far I replaced all fluids, front two tires, bake pads and rotors and left rear hub. I keep a battery maintainer on the battery when not running. This is my fun vehicle and not my daily driver. John
It amazes me how terrible the HB's are, and yet some do not fail; I have a 2011 with 21k miles and I just had HPA do a cam swap for me; part of my motivation was a slightly wobbling, belt-squeaking balancer. When he took it apart, part of my oil pan was worn away from a previous balancer that failed and started walking back toward the engine. I bought the car with 19k last August, so that means in 19k miles, it had one OEM balancer totally separate and fail, and the replacement OEM balancer they put on was already beginning it's march to failure. I was surprised someone did the job and put back an OEM balancer; I replaced with a PowerBond.
2013 25k miles had a very healthy wobble. It was a decent job to do myself. I shopped around about 5-6 vettes before buying mine and they all had a wobble, one was terrifying.
You must be a lucky one with nothing yet. But there is a couple ways they can fail, the wobble, rubber detach and your belt stops spinning and rubber detach and the outer ring will walk forward (and rub on your rack0 or walk back (and rub on your engine). Like others have said its not a problem until it is, just keep a watchful eye on it. If it was me they are so frequently problematic i would swap it out, provided you can afford it. The second i saw a little wobble i would jump on it immediately. No reason to strain or wear out bearings premature risking long term damage..
I bought my 2007 last fall. No harmonic balancer wobble/noise/etc (I checked it pretty regularly). This spring I passed someone on a 2 lane road and it immediately started squealing when I went WOT. I got off the road immediately and the balancer was already walking forward slightly, enough that the belt was one rib off. This was at ~51k miles.
Now it has an ATI Superdamper and Texas Speed cam so its not all bad.
Looking for information as I’m an under a year Corvette owner.
Before I bought my 09 base I looked at an 07 with a little under 30k miles. It chirped at start up and the HB wobble was noticeable and what seemed to me, significant. I researched and from what I read, the LS3 engines didn’t have the same level of HB issues as the LS2.
Any insights into the relative reliability of HBs on LS2 and LS3 engines is appreciated.
2013 25k miles had a very healthy wobble. It was a decent job to do myself. I shopped around about 5-6 vettes before buying mine and they all had a wobble, one was terrifying.
You must be a lucky one with nothing yet. But there is a couple ways they can fail, the wobble, rubber detach and your belt stops spinning and rubber detach and the outer ring will walk forward (and rub on your rack0 or walk back (and rub on your engine). Like others have said its not a problem until it is, just keep a watchful eye on it. If it was me they are so frequently problematic i would swap it out, provided you can afford it. The second i saw a little wobble i would jump on it immediately. No reason to strain or wear out bearings premature risking long term damage..
What kind of price are we talking here? I just got an 06 C6 and it had a little chirping that the prior owner said wasn't an issue (I didn't know better). Now I learn about this harmonic balance issue and sure enough it's got the wobble. I'm not confident enough to do the replacement myself. Anyone have an idea on the cost for a shop to do it?
Well I can tell this has been touched on 1000 times and bear with me because I haven’t even had my c6 for a week yet. I’m hearing a lot of horror stories about how bad the harmonic balancer are on our cars. Do almost all c6s need them replaced? Does anyone have higher end mileage and has NOT replaced their balance? I’m at 87k on my c6 and I’m not having any issues and the balancer seems to be flush and not wobbling with car running. I can’t seem to tell if it was replaced but man am I scared haha. I do not want to spend that money to fix it and I definitely don’t want to do it myself! Can anyone ease my mind?
You need to replace it ASAP and while your there go ahead and pin the crank and install a S/C. If you ever needed a reason to upgrade; this is it But as others have said, I wouldn't worry about just because.
What kind of price are we talking here? I just got an 06 C6 and it had a little chirping that the prior owner said wasn't an issue (I didn't know better). Now I learn about this harmonic balance issue and sure enough it's got the wobble. I'm not confident enough to do the replacement myself. Anyone have an idea on the cost for a shop to do it?
Four years ago I looked at an 07 with around 30k. It chirped on start up and had what looked like a significant wobble. I did get an estimate of $1,800 at a dealership. I walked away and found my 09 a few weeks later.
I would think it may be less expensive at a private shop. Labor seems to be the big issue. My BIL had an HB go bad on his C5. He’s a pretty good mechanic and replaced it himself but didn’t seem eager to do another one.
Found out mine was bad when it wore out my AC belt which flew up and took out the CAM position sensor which started leaking oil ever so slowly. Had it replaced at a local shop. Not cheap...something like $1700. No problems since. Get a quality ATI if you get it done.
Well I can tell this has been touched on 1000 times and bear with me because I haven’t even had my c6 for a week yet. I’m hearing a lot of horror stories about how bad the harmonic balancer are on our cars. Do almost all c6s need them replaced? Does anyone have higher end mileage and has NOT replaced their balance? I’m at 87k on my c6 and I’m not having any issues and the balancer seems to be flush and not wobbling with car running. I can’t seem to tell if it was replaced but man am I scared haha. I do not want to spend that money to fix it and I definitely don’t want to do it myself! Can anyone ease my mind?
I have a 2007 with 207000km (126138 miles) and am JUST changing the harmonic balancer now. I am unsure if a previous owner had it replaced before, but if so, they used an OEM balancer which failed the same way.
I am awaiting delivery of a Summit Racing SUM-C2501 harmonic balancer and bolt as I type this. If yours does need replacing, from what I've read, stay away from the OEM part as it could fail the same way at any time (like the original). All threads on this subject suggest changing to an aftermarket balancer, an ATI if you are supercharged and/or do a lot of track racing, and the Summit if you're more a daily driver.
As others have said, if your harmonic balancer is not wobbling or making noise, you don't have too much to worry about.
I wonder if the harmonic balancer issues apply more to the manual transmission where the engine is torqued a lot more frequently than with an automatic. Hitting the throttle hard all the time is naturally going to stress the HB more.