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Old Jul 4, 2022 | 09:58 PM
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Can't go wrong with OEM in my opinion. I like the moris don't get me wrong, but I don't think i'd ever 'buy' them for my C6. I got lucky mine came with them :P
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Old Jul 4, 2022 | 10:06 PM
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Just ordered a set of the Carbide GTR C8 style lights. They’re so modern, and seem to provide significantly better light output.

I may do an Installation or review video as well to document my experience with them. Very excited to install them.
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NB Vette, you may be right that one of the two previous owners could have changed them. I assumed that because everything else (unfortunately tires) were original, the headlights would be also.

I drove an Eclipse for 16 years. Lights were really bad at night due to glazing - drivers side was worse I figured because they got more incoming from on -coming traffic. I got some of that lens deglaze like what was advertised on tv. It worked, not like on the commercials, but with lots of time and elbow grease.
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Originally Posted by Brent4880
NB Vette, you may be right that one of the two previous owners could have changed them. I assumed that because everything else (unfortunately tires) were original, the headlights would be also.

I drove an Eclipse for 16 years. Lights were really bad at night due to glazing - drivers side was worse I figured because they got more incoming from on -coming traffic. I got some of that lens deglaze like what was advertised on tv. It worked, not like on the commercials, but with lots of time and elbow grease.
I'm not saying they did for sure, just that it is a possibility.

As for the lens polishes, I didn't include those in my list, just lens replacement options. From what I have read here on the forums, these sometimes work but don't last unless you follow up with UV clearcoat and are a lot of work for something that doesn't last. I personally have not tried any of these, so am just going by what I've read or seen in Youtube videos.
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Originally Posted by BluegrassMotorsport
I've got the GTRs and I'm tickled with them. Lighting is on another level over factory. Although, so would a decent flashlight... If I had to do it over I would pick the same ones again. The Morimotos are great with an awesome build quality and serious warranty. I just liked the style of the GTRs better.
I've got the GTR's here as well and love them. Totally agree on the level of improvement over factory lighting. I chose the GTR's over the Morimoto's for the same reasons, just preferred the C8 styling better. Morimoto's are extremely good quality as well.
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Old Jul 5, 2022 | 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by BluegrassMotorsport
I've got the GTRs and I'm tickled with them. Lighting is on another level over factory. Although, so would a decent flashlight... If I had to do it over I would pick the same ones again. The Morimotos are great with an awesome build quality and serious warranty. I just liked the style of the GTRs better.
Anybody who thinks the OEM C6 headlights are bad should go drive a 2015-2020 F-150 with halogens. More like candle light they are so bad.

If my OEM headlights start crazing I will probably go with the Carbides. I recently added drop in LEDs to my high beams in the C6. Not sure how well they work because I rarely get to use the high beams. I have the same drop ins in the low/high/fogs on my F-150 and they work great.
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Originally Posted by NBVette_Canada
While it is possible that you are correct that the cause of the crazing is sun exposure only, I don't believe that is entirely the case. I have seen reports of owners of "garage queens" that have had the crazing issue, and also seen others who daily drive their cars and never had an issue. I think there are multiple reasons, and am quite sure that sun exposure certainly doesn't do the original lenses any good.

In your case, where you are the third owner, is it possible that owner 1 or 2 did a lens replacement and just never mentioned it?

The other issue with the older original headlights is the aging of the reflectors and projector lenses of the lights themselves. Over time, these age and cause a loss in the amount of light produced. As someone who has recently done an LED headlight replacement, I can tell you that the amount of light output when comparing the original to the new LEDs is like night and day. And this is after doing a headlight lens replacement prior to changing to LEDs as well.
While reflector bowls can age, projector lenses typically.do not. And what ages on the reflector bowls is really the coating from heat. Its also VERY minimal, and takes a long time.

What does age within a realistic time frame is the HID capsule itself. Much like any other light bulb, it's output decreases with age. This also happens with LEDs, but to a lesser extent, they tend to drop in output a little bit, and then fail completely.

All that said, of inwas going to upgrade my headlights, it'd be a sharp lights or similar LED projector backed upgrade and LED projectors. I have quad LED projectors on my TBSS, and theyre phenomenal. I dont see a point tonsoending 1000 bucks for the c7 or c8 style hesdlights (same company makes them btw), for something that wont cone close to equaling the output a minor modification to the oem headlights can do.
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Old Jul 5, 2022 | 01:09 PM
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TLNR - call us and we'll go over every option that is best for you.
The MAIN options are:
1) OE headlights with Lens swaps
1A) OE headlights with Lens swaps AND goodies <-- lots of options here, see below for more details
2) C7 Style Morimoto - best warranty, most installed aftermarket light on the market
3) C8 Style GTR Carbide - best LED ouput (marginally) coolest startup, arguably most "new" upgrade look.
also rans:
4) Anzo - historically poor long term quality, copy look of the C7 Morimoto, lower warranty. (we do not offer this)
5) DEPO - historically highest aftermarket quality lights (lenses, plastics, construction), requires re-use of OE components, isn't much brighter than stock (WE DO OFFER THIS)
6) Spyder/Sonar - historically poor long term quality, copy look of C7 Morimoto, lower warranty (we do not offer this)

Originally Posted by C6VetteLover
I'm aware of several solutions for clouded C6 headlights from lens replacement to replacement assemblies. Which in your option is the best replacement assembly?

I've seen Anzo, Morimoto, GTR Carbide and I'm sure there are others.
The best lens replacements are from us - Zen6 lenses are the clearest, the only ones that offer real DOT certification the proves they provide better light output than stock OE lenses (clean vs clean lenses provided), and we have since upgraded our gasket material.

Originally Posted by PCMusicGuy
Also, keep in mind that sometimes replacing the lens is not enough to make your headlights work well again. Cars with enough use and exposure may have had the reflective coating in the projector pod flake/burn off. At that point, you could do a LED swap.
This is a great idea and we recommend the Zen6 lens + Zen6 Bi-LED configuration here:
https://www.umnitza.com/zen6-retrofi...eadlights.html

Originally Posted by NBVette_Canada
As far as I know, these are your options.

1. Headlight Lens Replacement
2. Upgrade to/Replace HID Bulbs
3. Anzo Replacement Headlights
4. Amazon/E-bay Replacement Headlights (Non-Morimoto or GTR Carbide)

5. Sharp Light Innovations LED Upgrade
6. Morimoto Replacement Headlights
7. GTR Carbide Replacement Headlights

Both of these options are a full headlight replacement.
Morimoto's give you the C7 styling while GTR Carbide give the C8 styling.
Morimoto's have a 5 year warranty, GTR Carbide have a 2 year warranty.
Superior light output over HID options

8. Vette-Lights C6 InfiRai Infinity-Style LED Tail Lights
These are new from Vette-Lights (exclusive??) and are in pre-order stage.
They provide built in reverse lights and an optional amber turn signal if desired.
These will come from factory with smoked (dark) lenses.
These lights provide the infinity mirror look that some people like
Fleshing out these options:
1) Headlight lenses should be high quality and we offer our Zen6 with full DOT certification, no other aftermarket vendor can actually provide that. They won't spend the money to do the testing but they will stamp "DOT" on their lenses and hope the consumer doesn't notice they have no documentation to back this up. It's not enough to copy the originals, if you are making another production run, that still should have a DOT certification from a real lab like Cal-Coast INTL.
Our gaskets are improved and OE quality now. We also offer install services and have done likely as many as anyone.
2) This can't be stressed enough, factory bulbs are fine if they have never been used but they will degrade a lot over time. When opening the light, get a new set of Osram CBN bulbs - we offer those as well.
3 and 4) Not a great option, but cheap and quick.
5) I would like to recommend our BI-LED setup, it uses more modern dual and single core Bi-LED units with a high quality metal replacement bracket. It can help eliminate the degraded OE D1S parts and still plugs in like stock.
https://www.umnitza.com/zen6-retrofi...eadlights.html
6 and 7) has been discussed too many times, but your summary is on point.

Originally Posted by Iowa
this is a very opinionated statement. For me, i found headlight vs headlight i preferred stock and thought they performed better. I added led fogs to my morimotos and am thrilled. Somewhere someone posted a lumens measurement and if I recall correctly the morimotos performed better, but it wasn't a mind blowing difference. The morimotos perform well and are a drastic upgrade in the appearance department. If looks didn't matter I'd probably stick upgraded bulbs in factory housings. Everyone is going to be different.
If your goal is output, nothing beats a Bi-LED setup on stock lights.
If your goal is warranty, looks, plug and play, and the ability to resell/keep your stock lights, then the C7 Morimoto on special and C8 units are hard to beat.


Originally Posted by Arvalo
Just ordered a set of the Carbide GTR C8 style lights. They’re so modern, and seem to provide significantly better light output.

I may do an Installation or review video as well to document my experience with them. Very excited to install them.
Look forward to that review!!!

Originally Posted by BadAV
Anybody who thinks the OEM C6 headlights are bad should go drive a 2015-2020 F-150 with halogens. More like candle light they are so bad.

If my OEM headlights start crazing I will probably go with the Carbides. I recently added drop in LEDs to my high beams in the C6. Not sure how well they work because I rarely get to use the high beams. I have the same drop ins in the low/high/fogs on my F-150 and they work great.
That's a main reason why there are even more options for the Ford F150s than there are for C6s. The F150 headlights are garbage. We sell a lot of Hybrid, Vland, and XB Morimoto for those. But some drop ins can be a a good stop gap.
If you're interested, let me know - I can get you that 15% off deal or better on some of the non-Morimoto brands.

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Old Jul 5, 2022 | 05:42 PM
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It’s great that there are some viable options. This issue came up as I was researching my first Corvette purchase last summer - things that frequently need addressed with various generations and years (C5-7).

The haze remover did work on my Eclipse. I didn’t time it, but it was probably a couple hours of repeated applications and cleaning. There were several YouTube videos on ways to remedy this with C6s, but really can’t vouch for any. Hoping mine stay good for a while.
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Originally Posted by Brent4880
It’s great that there are some viable options. This issue came up as I was researching my first Corvette purchase last summer - things that frequently need addressed with various generations and years (C5-7).

The haze remover did work on my Eclipse. I didn’t time it, but it was probably a couple hours of repeated applications and cleaning. There were several YouTube videos on ways to remedy this with C6s, but really can’t vouch for any. Hoping mine stay good for a while.
Many people will say the 3M stuff works, it really doesn't, it's a temporary fix. The crazing you see if sandwiched between the outer and inner layer, you really have to sand it down to basically the core, build it back up, and then reclear it. The C6 headlights are unique in that way. If you're spending 2-3 hours, you might as well replace the lenses, and put Bi-LED in there.
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Old Jul 5, 2022 | 07:01 PM
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It seems the lenses on the C6 are a different animal.

I spent the time and effort on the Eclipse because I didn’t have a lot of money then and I sometimes have trouble letting go of stuff I start - if it’s the last thing I ever do mentality. I think it was the 3M product. You just put some of it on the lens, a few gentle wipes and lens is like new. The stuff did work but required countless applications and muscle.

I like the look of a lot of the replacement headlight units, C7 and C8 styles. I also think the stock units look good. Hopefully it will be a few years before I have to deal with this issue.
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Originally Posted by FAUEE
While reflector bowls can age, projector lenses typically.do not. And what ages on the reflector bowls is really the coating from heat. Its also VERY minimal, and takes a long time.

What does age within a realistic time frame is the HID capsule itself. Much like any other light bulb, it's output decreases with age. This also happens with LEDs, but to a lesser extent, they tend to drop in output a little bit, and then fail completely.

All that said, of inwas going to upgrade my headlights, it'd be a sharp lights or similar LED projector backed upgrade and LED projectors. I have quad LED projectors on my TBSS, and theyre phenomenal. I dont see a point tonsoending 1000 bucks for the c7 or c8 style hesdlights (same company makes them btw), for something that wont cone close to equaling the output a minor modification to the oem headlights can do.
Couple of corrections required here:

Morimoto makes the C7 style light.
GTR Lighting makes the C8 style light.

Sharp Light Innovation LED kit is significantly cheaper, but it is a do-it-yourself kit and requires significant work to pull your existing lenses off your lights so that you can perform the upgrade. If you are not technically inclined or do not have the time to spare, you will need to find someone to do this for you. If you are taking your lenses off, in my personal opinion, you'd be a fool to not take the opportunity to replace the lenses at the same time no matter what condition your existing lenses appear to be in. Adding the cost of new lenses to this equation, as well as the labor required to complete the upgrade (even if you do it yourself, your time is worth something), the price falls close to the other options.

Output of these are similar.
OEM headlights - 1630 lumen
Morimoto C7 - 2600 lumen
GTR Carbide C8 - 3000 lumen
Sharp Light Innovation OEM LED kit - 3370 lumen
Sharp light innovations LED kit provides slightly better output than these, mainly because his 2.0 kit (which I believe is all you can get now) is using newer LED projectors. If we call the light output between these a wash, the only difference left is do you want OEM looks, C7 looks, or C8 looks.
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Old Jul 5, 2022 | 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by info@umnitza.com
TLNR - call us and we'll go over every option that is best for you.
The MAIN options are:
1) OE headlights with Lens swaps
1A) OE headlights with Lens swaps AND goodies <-- lots of options here, see below for more details
2) C7 Style Morimoto - best warranty, most installed aftermarket light on the market
3) C8 Style GTR Carbide - best LED ouput (marginally) coolest startup, arguably most "new" upgrade look.
also rans:
4) Anzo - historically poor long term quality, copy look of the C7 Morimoto, lower warranty. (we do not offer this)
5) DEPO - historically highest aftermarket quality lights (lenses, plastics, construction), requires re-use of OE components, isn't much brighter than stock (WE DO OFFER THIS)
6) Spyder/Sonar - historically poor long term quality, copy look of C7 Morimoto, lower warranty (we do not offer this)


The best lens replacements are from us - Zen6 lenses are the clearest, the only ones that offer real DOT certification the proves they provide better light output than stock OE lenses (clean vs clean lenses provided), and we have since upgraded our gasket material.


This is a great idea and we recommend the Zen6 lens + Zen6 Bi-LED configuration here:
https://www.umnitza.com/zen6-retrofi...eadlights.html


Fleshing out these options:
1) Headlight lenses should be high quality and we offer our Zen6 with full DOT certification, no other aftermarket vendor can actually provide that. They won't spend the money to do the testing but they will stamp "DOT" on their lenses and hope the consumer doesn't notice they have no documentation to back this up. It's not enough to copy the originals, if you are making another production run, that still should have a DOT certification from a real lab like Cal-Coast INTL.
Our gaskets are improved and OE quality now. We also offer install services and have done likely as many as anyone.
2) This can't be stressed enough, factory bulbs are fine if they have never been used but they will degrade a lot over time. When opening the light, get a new set of Osram CBN bulbs - we offer those as well.
3 and 4) Not a great option, but cheap and quick.
5) I would like to recommend our BI-LED setup, it uses more modern dual and single core Bi-LED units with a high quality metal replacement bracket. It can help eliminate the degraded OE D1S parts and still plugs in like stock.
https://www.umnitza.com/zen6-retrofi...eadlights.html
6 and 7) has been discussed too many times, but your summary is on point.


If your goal is output, nothing beats a Bi-LED setup on stock lights.
If your goal is warranty, looks, plug and play, and the ability to resell/keep your stock lights, then the C7 Morimoto on special and C8 units are hard to beat.



Look forward to that review!!!


That's a main reason why there are even more options for the Ford F150s than there are for C6s. The F150 headlights are garbage. We sell a lot of Hybrid, Vland, and XB Morimoto for those. But some drop ins can be a a good stop gap.
If you're interested, let me know - I can get you that 15% off deal or better on some of the non-Morimoto brands.

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Today is the last day for the 15% off sale on Morimoto brands. Please reach out to us so we can secure a unit for you @info@umnitza.com
Thanks for adding the additional info.

Note that I wasn't trying to call you out specifically, just offering my experiences. Like I stated in my full post, the lenses were excellent. Glad to hear you've updated your gaskets because I must say, the old one was pretty lacking.

Also note that if I had had a contact name, I would have referenced that in the vendor list as well as the forum ID.
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Has anyone installed and/or studied the Coplus C6 Corvette OEM Style LED Headlights? They look like OEM but with a LED strip along the bottom of the bezel. Cost $770(+/-).
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