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Old Dec 19, 2023 | 03:56 PM
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Merry Christmas Everyone,

I would love to get some perspective/opinions on what you believe is the more collective Corvette. Of course, all things being equal (i.e. milage, options, color, etc...)
1. 2011 Z06/Z07 3LZ Carbon (blue)
2. 2013 Z06 3LZ Hennessey Performance HPE 700 (blue)
I am back in the market for a C6 Z car and these two are currently available. They both seem like great cars to have and enjoy for many years. I am not buying to hold forever but, I do want the car retain value.

Your thoughts will be much appreciated.
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I agree with TCW, The majority of the past two generations of kids could care less about cars. Buy the car you like and drive it every day and enjoy it. I never understood why people buy these amazing driving machines that are truly the best sports cars on the road only to let them sit in a “collection”. I can't wait to drive mine every chance and to pile on the miles, perform all of the maintenance and do some modding.
Die cast models are a better choice for collecting.
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I agree with TCW, The majority of the past two generations of kids could care less about cars. Buy the car you like and drive it every day and enjoy it. I never understood why people buy these amazing driving machines that are truly the best sports cars on the road only to let them sit in a “collection”. I can't wait to drive mine every chance and to pile on the miles, perform all of the maintenance and do some modding.
Die cast models are a better choice for collecting.

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The Hennessey adds no value. His name has the se value as the name Epstein. The guy is a crook, his cars are jokes, and they're not in the same.league as a Callaway or Lingenfelter.
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Originally Posted by Mike98SilVert
I agree with TCW, The majority of the past two generations of kids could care less about cars. Buy the car you like and drive it every day and enjoy it. I never understood why people buy these amazing driving machines that are truly the best sports cars on the road. I can't wait to drive mine every chance and to pile on the miles, perform all of the maintenance and do some modding.
Die cast models are a better choice for collecting.
Poof, TCW disappeared LOL. But I will disagree, I have always been into cars but not when I was in my 20's thru 40's. Those years were reserved mostly for my kids, wife, home, career. I still liked cars but didn't have time to spend on them like I do now or when I was a teenager. I do see a lot of teenagers interested in rice burners and that is disappointing to me but probably somewhat a result of everyone thinking they are so superior to domestic cars.
OP Hennessey seems to have a bad rep and I'm not sure many C6's will have much collectible value in the coming years but if I were looking for one it would have to be a factory original, low production, loaded, badass with low miles.
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Old Dec 19, 2023 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by FAUEE
The Hennessey adds no value. His name has the se value as the name Epstein. The guy is a crook, his cars are jokes, and they're not in the same.league as a Callaway or Lingenfelter.


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The Hennessey adds no value. His name has the se value as the name Epstein. The guy is a crook, his cars are jokes, and they're not in the same.league as a Callaway or Lingenfelter.
100% The Carbon Edition is going to retain more of it's value. Supersonic Blue not as much as Inferno Orange as there were twice as many SSB made. I get messages every couple of week asking if my car is for sale, just got one today.

Make sure it's an actual Carbon Edition, VIN will end in B5600001 - B5600252.
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Ill throw in my .02 cents before the thread derails..

If i was to buy a Corvette for future collectability, Hands down would be a Z06/Z07 or a ZR1. Drive it from time to time and enjoy it. The car market is too unpredictable to really say it'll go one way or another, but the cars that bring big dollars are the big dog top trim cars. With the exception of one-of-a-kind like first of the production line, or owned by some kind of celebrity. IMHO, no name adds more value to rare cars like Shelby does to the mustang, so I personally would not seek a Callaway or otherwise unless thats what I was specifically looking for.

I would totally have a Z07 carbon in my garage along with my GS.
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Poof, TCW disappeared LOL..
Yes, I deleted my post because I decided that it contained more of my opinion than actual fact.

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Of those two choices, #1.

but I think a 2013 ZR1, or 2013 427 Convertible will be the most valued long term.

look at what C5 cars hold the most value. Low production. A white 2001 Z06 is more expensive than a 2004 Z06.

in the C4’s, the ZR1 still hold their value. A 1996 GS is still holding value more than the silver LT4 collector edition.

but as others have said, buy what you like vs trying to make it an investment. You’ll have to buy the car and never drive it to make sure it holds its value.
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Do you want your car to be "most collectible" so that it goes up in value? Or so that people will think you have a cool and/or rare car?

There aren't many cars that have ever beaten the S&P 500 over any 10 or 20 year period. For example, let's say your grandad purchased a 1967 Corvette L71 tri-power coupe that checks all the collectible boxes. That would have cost him ~$7K in 1967. Your grandfather and dad drove it, but not much, and now you have a 12,000 mile survivor that is highly coveted. That car is worth what, maybe $250k? The same $7K put into an S&P 500 index fund in 1967 (and yes, I'm aware that index funds didn't yet exist) would be worth over $350K today. With no maintenance, no insurance, no storage, and no risk of some knucklehead rear ending you at a stoplight.

Of course, if grandad would have stretched for that L88, now you would have a multi-million dollar car and one of the unicorns that has beaten the stock market.

Purely as an investment, cars are poor choices. So what do you value about owning a car? For some of us, it's the joy of driving it, for others, showing it, and for others, the camaraderie of a club and shared experiences. Or it's just as simple as "I like driving a cool car for my daily so I don't bore myself to death in another god***m metallic gray BMW".

Me, I like blue Vettes, so I would get the Carbon and drive it all the time.
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Thank you all for your opinions.

Yes, I drive my cars. Currently I have a 2007 Porsche 911 Turbo 6sp and it's driven regularly, I also have a 2001 BMW Z3 Coupe (Clown shoe car) also driven. Both cars are modified to my taste, and I let my friends drive them. Both cars are worth what I paid for them and are not depreciating like a new Maserati.

I think the 2011 Z06/Z07 Carbon is the way to go. I did see a SS Orange one today and I'll look into it, but I do love that blue.

I will post pics here when the new (to me) ride arrives.

Thank you all again and may this be the best holiday season for you and your families.
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To be honest, I could give a rip. I buy cars to drive, not set around in a garage to look at like a trophy hoping they will have collectable value some day. Life is truly short, and no one knows what tomorrow will bring. It seems that I was 45 years old a couple of years ago, and yet, I'm going to be 75 in May. Thank God I'm in very good health, and can enjoy myself in life. I look forward to driving my 07, LS7 S/C'd Bas, 638 rwhp that's absolutely visceral. I don't street race, however I still get a thrill hitting the throttle for a mind bending acceleration adventure from time to time. It's all what you want out of life. Don't let it pass you buy without enjoying every minute. The scriptures say it best: life is but a vapor—a breath exhaled on a cold morning.
Again, Collectable doesn't mean a whole lot to me, especially at my young age of nearly 75. Mark my words......think about it, and realize you are not in control. Think about the collapse of the economy which could very well happen very soon. I'd rather have a collection of precious metals instead of any car. Again, just think about it. Thanks for letting me rant.......have great holidays, and a blessed new year!
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Better off investing in the market than a car. Housing even better
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None of the above, both are just used Chevy's. Better things to do with your money if that is the driving factor.
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Originally Posted by DrKrieger
To be honest, I could give a rip. I buy cars to drive, not set around in a garage to look at like a trophy hoping they will have collectable value some day. Life is truly short, and no one knows what tomorrow will bring. It seems that I was 45 years old a couple of years ago, and yet, I'm going to be 75 in May. Thank God I'm in very good health, and can enjoy myself in life. I look forward to driving my 07, LS7 S/C'd Bas, 638 rwhp that's absolutely visceral. I don't street race, however I still get a thrill hitting the throttle for a mind bending acceleration adventure from time to time. It's all what you want out of life. Don't let it pass you buy without enjoying every minute. The scriptures say it best: life is but a vapor—a breath exhaled on a cold morning.
Again, Collectable doesn't mean a whole lot to me, especially at my young age of nearly 75. Mark my words......think about it, and realize you are not in control. Think about the collapse of the economy which could very well happen very soon. I'd rather have a collection of precious metals instead of any car. Again, just think about it. Thanks for letting me rant.......have great holidays, and a blessed new year!

Well put Doc! Drive em while we still can! That being said I can see a few C6s appreciating in value. Rare color ZR1s, special editions Z06s, lingefelters/callaways, 427 verts, centennials, 60th anni special editions... but how collectible is the question. I dont think theyll be million dollar cars in a few years but I think theyll hold their value.
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I'd go with the 2011.

As far as collectability, who cares. Drive the car and enjoy it.
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I concur with the above, as a friend of mine used to say, "don't save it for the next guy". I too would avoid the Callaway car.

Buy what you want, in the color that you want, and just presume that it will be worth 50% of what you paid for it, when the time comes to sell it. Then, if you get a little more than that, you can be pleasantly surprised.
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Buy what you want, in the color that you want, and just presume that it will be worth 50% of what you paid for it, when the time comes to sell it. Then, if you get a little more than that, you can be pleasantly surprised.
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I concur with the above, as a friend of mine used to say, "don't save it for the next guy". I too would avoid the Callaway car.

Buy what you want, in the color that you want, and just presume that it will be worth 50% of what you paid for it, when the time comes to sell it. Then, if you get a little more than that, you can be pleasantly surprised.

It’s not about money, value or any of that, it’s about passion for a car guy.
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