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Old 04-16-2024, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by FAUEE
While they can go out, if he's replaced "quite a few of them", he has ripped off a lot of people replacing shocks that are perfectly fine.
He's not that type of mechanic to purposely replace parts that are not needing to be replaced and he doesn't rip people off.

He said the mag ride shocks he replaced in his career needed to be replaced as they were leaking badly and I think he mentioned something about a code was thrown.

He inspected this C6 and let me know what was going on with it. He mentioned oil seepage around one shock that he said could be of concern but that it was still functioning. The other he said had some oil but not of concern at this time.
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Originally Posted by Pettrix
He's not that type of mechanic to purposely replace parts that are not needing to be replaced and he doesn't rip people off.

He said the mag ride shocks he replaced in his career needed to be replaced as they were leaking badly and I think he mentioned something about a code was thrown.

He inspected this C6 and let me know what was going on with it. He mentioned oil seepage around one shock that he said could be of concern but that it was still functioning. The other he said had some oil but not of concern at this time.
That's not what you said before. Seems fishy.

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The mechanic looked the car over today. Here is his report:
  • One of the magnetic ride shocks is leaking, another has a very slight leak ($500 per shock plus labor to install)
So the car needs tires ($2k) and 2 mag ride shocks ($1k). That's $3k that the car needs to address the issues. We shall see if the dealer is willing to negotiate the price based on those issues.
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You guys are getting dangerously close to getting into a pissing match about whether or not the shocks are seeping, leaking, dripping or just moist. It doesn't really matter at this point, it's really just a bargaining point (as are the tires) for the OP and the dealer. The OP needs to decide how much he/she is will to pay, and set that limit.

When I bought my low mileage C6 with original tires, the response from the dealer was "yeah, they're old, but they look fine". Rocks look good too, until they kill you.

Basically, any dealer is going to have the advantage, they know the market, they know what they've got, they know how much interest there has been in it and they know what it's worth. Our job is to try and get as close as we can to their lowest number. The more "ammo" the better for negotiations, but unfortunately, often logic has nothing to do with it.

Best of luck.
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Originally Posted by yeller z06
You guys are getting dangerously close to getting into a pissing match about whether or not the shocks are seeping, leaking, dripping or just moist. It doesn't really matter at this point, it's really just a bargaining point (as are the tires) for the OP and the dealer. The OP needs to decide how much he/she is will to pay, and set that limit.

When I bought my low mileage C6 with original tires, the response from the dealer was "yeah, they're old, but they look fine". Rocks look good too, until they kill you.

Basically, any dealer is going to have the advantage, they know the market, they know what they've got, they know how much interest there has been in it and they know what it's worth. Our job is to try and get as close as we can to their lowest number. The more "ammo" the better for negotiations, but unfortunately, often logic has nothing to do with it.

Best of luck.
The only one who just threw fuel on that fire is you. Everyone here is making sure the OP is making an informed decision. And when the OP (or the mechanic in this case) contradicts himself, then that's a huge red flag.

But, whatever. You're right. It doesn't matter. It's not my money. Carry on.
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Old 04-16-2024, 05:02 PM
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Sometimes these forums are a great resource tool, other times, things get goofy. Unfortunately, that's the way it is with people and how they respond to posts.

My mechanic is just telling me what is wrong or could be potentially wrong with the car. The other 2 mag ride shocks are not leaking, one is leaking noticeably, the other has a small leak. The leaking shocks could last for years or fail soon. Nobody knows but it was just something the mechanic noticed and advised me of. If they do fail soon, that is the cost for the parts plus labor. Just like the tires, they work for now but need to be replaced soon.

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Originally Posted by yeller z06
You guys are getting dangerously close to getting into a pissing match about whether or not the shocks are seeping, leaking, dripping or just moist. It doesn't really matter at this point, it's really just a bargaining point (as are the tires) for the OP and the dealer. The OP needs to decide how much he/she is will to pay, and set that limit.

When I bought my low mileage C6 with original tires, the response from the dealer was "yeah, they're old, but they look fine". Rocks look good too, until they kill you.

Basically, any dealer is going to have the advantage, they know the market, they know what they've got, they know how much interest there has been in it and they know what it's worth. Our job is to try and get as close as we can to their lowest number. The more "ammo" the better for negotiations, but unfortunately, often logic has nothing to do with it.

Best of luck.
Well said. It is a bargaining tool.The dealer just wants to unload the car for the highest amount as possible, as soon as possible. I once had a dealer with a date code original tire from 2011, that it was still a good tire in 2024. So a 13 year old tire was perfectly fine to be driven on. Dealers don't care about anything but selling the car for top dollar ASAP.
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KBB shows a 2011 GS with 3LT and less than 12k miles valued at $33.6k Private Party
KBB then shows a 2012 GS with 3LT with around 26k miles valued at $39.5k Private Party

So WHY would a 1 year newer model with twice the mileage be worth $6k more than a 1 year older model with half the mileage?

The 2012 has better seats than the 2011. Are there any other things that changed in from 2011 to 2012?
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Originally Posted by Pettrix
KBB shows a 2011 GS with 3LT and less than 12k miles valued at $33.6k Private Party
KBB then shows a 2012 GS with 3LT with around 26k miles valued at $39.5k Private Party

So WHY would a 1 year newer model with twice the mileage be worth $6k more than a 1 year older model with half the mileage?

The 2012 has better seats than the 2011. Are there any other things that changed in from 2011 to 2012?
Because KBB is completely, utterly worthless currently.
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Originally Posted by Pettrix
KBB shows a 2011 GS with 3LT and less than 12k miles valued at $33.6k Private Party
KBB then shows a 2012 GS with 3LT with around 26k miles valued at $39.5k Private Party

So WHY would a 1 year newer model with twice the mileage be worth $6k more than a 1 year older model with half the mileage?

The 2012 has better seats than the 2011. Are there any other things that changed in from 2011 to 2012?
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You still haven't bought this thing???????



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