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Old May 24, 2024 | 02:34 PM
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Looking for good solutions for speaker replacement that are HI FI - think Morel, Hertz, Focal, Bonneville Laboratories that level of speakers. Just wondering if anyone has put something into the doors that fits and sounds amazing. Bonus points if you have a solution for up to 10" for a mid bass non subwoofer that also fits in the door. Thanks in advance.
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Depth of speaker becomes a problem in the C6 doors in a hurry.
Granted that GM put thumpers in the doors, such does not need to happen, if you are installing a sub woofer in the back instead.

And then we get into if you just want loud, or if you want clean.
In the later, anything short of D amp to drive a sub woofer only, is not going to cut it.
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Old May 26, 2024 | 10:09 PM
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Depth of speaker becomes a problem in the C6 doors in a hurry.
Granted that GM put thumpers in the doors, such does not need to happen, if you are installing a sub woofer in the back instead.

And then we get into if you just want loud, or if you want clean.
In the later, anything short of D amp to drive a sub woofer only, is not going to cut it.
looking to have more of a low frequency driver than a sub so that the overlap is a more smooth transition. No sub in back most likely had that in my c5z before and took up too much space with 2 10s. Thinking more loud with some bass than the super low rumble. Kinda looking at the hertz 10 or 8 inch driver

https://www.crutchfield.com/S-saeA0h...0aAqJgEALw_wcB

Is an example

Or

https://www.crutchfield.com/p_301SV2501/Hertz-SV-250-1.html

Clean is very important
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Old May 27, 2024 | 01:03 AM
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I suggest you look through this section of the forum, https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...lectronics-20/ @VinceC5 is a good reference when it comes to speakers for the C6’s.
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I suggest you look through this section of the forum, https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...lectronics-20/ @VinceC5 is a good reference when it comes to speakers for the C6’s.
yeah already looked in there couldn't find appropriate info. Was looking less main stream , more hifi audiophile level stuff. In the short term I am putting some Rockford Fosgate pro series stuff to get by until I figure out exactly what I want. Who knows maybe this will be a big enough improvement that I'm OK with it :P
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Old May 27, 2024 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Khaalathas
yeah already looked in there couldn't find appropriate info. Was looking less main stream , more hifi audiophile level stuff. In the short term I am putting some Rockford Fosgate pro series stuff to get by until I figure out exactly what I want. Who knows maybe this will be a big enough improvement that I'm OK with it :P
I disagree, there’s a lot of people who are really into getting the best sound possible out of their systems with the limitations of the Corvette, from speakers to tuning their systems for the best sound possible, again I suggest getting a hold of @VinceC5 and I know he can give you a lot of good information about what’ll fit, what won’t, and how to tune things for the best sound.
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It's been a while since I looked into what was available, but at the time I did I kind of decided that I'd would probably try to squeeze dynaudio or morel 10s in. As I recall, those were 8 ohm, so power needs start to pile up. I also have the dash speakers in my 2012, so that makes going 3 way a bit more reasonable.

You have to decide how far you're willing to go. Are you gonna be running an active DSP? How are your fab skills to get the speakers installed right? Are you expectations in line with what you can expect out of a small sports car with low profile tires, decent road noise, and a fair bit of exhaust sound.

End of the day, the install matters more than the gear at the level of equipment you're talking about, and probably even a bit under it.
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Another good reference person is @Pb82 Ronin here’s where he’s discussing DSP’s in this thread https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...-screw-it.html
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I went with Focal's in mine, dont recall the exact model but so far its been a great setup. I did a 4 ch amp to drive the door speakers and rear speakers (split the channel on the rear since factory their on the same channel), and then have the door speakers wired into a crossover with a tweeter replacing the upper door speaker. Couldn't be more pleased with it for the little bit of money I have tied up in it.
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In the same league as Focal is the Danish brand Dynaudio. The System 242 is amazing - it comes with a 7" mid but if you buy the MD102 tweeter and crossovers a la carte, you can sub in the Esotec MW 182 10" mid (more like 9.5"). You could also Squeeze in a System 362 3 way with the 8" mid. But honestly the Esotec System 242 with 150w - 200w /channel quality amp would blow you away. Like Focal these guys also make $50,000 + home speakers. The only down point is Dyn is pricey ($1,300ish) but not terrible. If price is not an object; you can move up to the Dynaudio Esotar series, although tweeter might not fit.




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Originally Posted by WasVette
In the same league as Focal is the Danish brand Dynaudio.
This is one of the most offensive things I've read here. Dynaudio makes most focal gear look like it's Skar. It's like saying that Torino freezer pizzas (Focal) are in the same.league as DiGiornio (Dynaudio).

I'm somewhat kidding here, but Dyn is definitely higher end than Focal. Focal makes some nice.prpducts, but they really cheapened themselves with their entry level lines. It'd be like if Ferrari decided to create a Fiat 500 competitor priced in line with it.
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Originally Posted by FAUEE
This is one of the most offensive things I've read here. Dynaudio makes most focal gear look like it's Skar. It's like saying that Torino freezer pizzas (Focal) are in the same.league as DiGiornio (Dynaudio).

I'm somewhat kidding here, but Dyn is definitely higher end than Focal. Focal makes some nice.prpducts, but they really cheapened themselves with their entry level lines. It'd be like if Ferrari decided to create a Fiat 500 competitor priced in line with it.
LOL - Pretty much agree but was trying to be nice....
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So are you just considering just changing the speakers out and running them off the stock system and amps? That’s not going to give you “HIFI” All that being said, you’d never be able to get real high quality HIFI equivalent to a home HIFI system given the limitations of the car, and you’d never get real good deep bass out of the door woofers no matter what brand you get, at best they’re mostly equivalent to a midrange given the mounting depth limitations, and space. To come close to quality HIFI you’d also have to add a quality aftermarket head unit, amps, subwoofer, sound deadener, DSP etc. then you’ll be close.

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So i used to install hyper high end home theatre and developed a taste for HI-FI, before and since i have also done car audio and (lucky for me) i just really like Infinity Speakers in a mobile scenario. Personal preference lined up with some pretty cheap speakers. Now their low end is garbage, but i always run a Sub, i have a JL 12 in the back of the Vette.

One thing i learned working in the static environment of a home vs a car, it just doesn't matter in a car... road noise, wind noise, weird shaped cabins, lack of power ect ect, ive heard 500$ systems sound better than 5k systems in a car just because it has better mounting points.

Anyways, just wanted to Chime in i really like Infinity i used to run MB quart and nakamichi amps long ago but i think they have turned into super cheap garbage the last decade, if they are still in business.

As for Subs, never had better than JL
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While we're on the topic, does sound deadening really help? I've been on the fence but I think its on my winter to do list.
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While we're on the topic, does sound deadening really help? I've been on the fence but I think its on my winter to do list.
Depends what you mean by help.

You can definitely use it to lower the resonant frequency of a panel. That sometimes helps with road noise. You can definitely use mass loaded vinyl to block some additional sound transmission. It's all a question of how deep you want to go(and how heavy), and for what gain.

If I was gonna do a thing I would use a small amount of tile based deadeners. Reality is you don't need to cover your car in foil backed butyl, the best way to do it is to use a product that applies over a smaller section with a nice thick bottle layer and a sturdy backing foil. It will give you all the benefits of most deadening, without the weight. You also don't get to totally rip out your interior for a few days while you roll stuff on every panel.
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Looking for good solutions for speaker replacement that are HI FI - think Morel, Hertz, Focal, Bonneville Laboratories that level of speakers. Just wondering if anyone has put something into the doors that fits and sounds amazing. Bonus points if you have a solution for up to 10" for a mid bass non subwoofer that also fits in the door. Thanks in advance.

OK - so here is an update on what I am going with for the Time being. Eventually thinking some of this stuff will go more high end but i have budgets to work with an baby steps (sort of) providing input on planned upgrades later as well so feel free to provide suggestions / input as well. Most of these I have heard and like but i am open to input as well.
Alpine ILX-407 (went not super hi on this as planning on doing the Max DIN conversion later as I feel it cleans up the looks of the dash so much.
Hertz ML Power 5 - 5 channel amplifier - or Possibly my Alpine's X-Series X-A90V 5 Channel -- Depending on what i like the sound of better with this setup. Was looking to keep space down and make this an invisible install as well. Probably move on to Helix 5 or 6 channel with DSP later
4" Morel Virtus Nano Carbon Integra
8" Rockford Fozgate Mid Bass Drivers - thinking Morel ADMW9 or Morel Elate Carbon 9" down the road
5.25 Morel Hybrid Driver
Focal RCA Cables, Power/Ground Cables, 10 Ga Sky High OFC speaker wire
Going to be using a combination of Morel and Resonix Sound Deadening / Sound Absorber to clean up everything sound wise wont be going super hardcore as I dont want to add a butt ton of extra weight at the same time as well.

looking for advice on Underseat Subwoofer Options - thinking id prefer unpowered passive setups so i can use the 5 channel to power it but ultimately if it sounds good im open to whatever. SQ is top concern not Boom Boom SPL

Mostly listen to Rock, Industrial, EDM, a little bit of classical but honestly some of that puts me to sleep while driving so only a little bit while in the car.

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There are no under seat subwoofer options. Your seat cushion literally will touch the floor. Your best bet is a corner box, you can buy the N X one and it comes preloaded with a sub. You can take it out if you want and still be cheaper than the other options that are similar.

I don't think I would bother with the Rockford 8s. Those are PA speakers anyways and likely will not respond well to the door environment. The bose woofers will likely work better until you decide to spend the money on some higher end speakers.
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I just did a sub on mine, did one of those amp/sub combo all in one deals. It helped but its still not perfect, I think I need some sound deadening because setting still it sounds amazing, moving down the road it gets drowned out by the road noise.
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There are no under seat subwoofer options. Your seat cushion literally will touch the floor. Your best bet is a corner box, you can buy the N X one and it comes preloaded with a sub. You can take it out if you want and still be cheaper than the other options that are similar.

I don't think I would bother with the Rockford 8s. Those are PA speakers anyways and likely will not respond well to the door environment. The bose woofers will likely work better until you decide to spend the money on some higher end speakers.
Ended up up getting 9" morels gonna put the RF in my mustang. I had heard good things about the RF specifically in c6 but ultimately decidedwith the rest being at a much much higher level that i wouldnt be dully satisfied even if it was better than the junk bose stuff. Should be set overall other than the customization to make it all fit. Lol
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