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Old Jul 13, 2024 | 09:40 AM
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Maybe on something that's not realistic like KBB, but the difference between heated seats and not, or HUD and not is absolutely worth more than a couple hundred bucks in the real world.

The nav unit, I would agree adds little to no value. But all the other stuff sure does. But you do you buddy,



HUD is another useless thing as is heated seats...(most people hide their Vettes in winter) I turned my hud off after two months on my c7 and its a lot better than what is in a c6...Yes I do me well, more than 52 cars.......Happy Motoring...



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2LT options are desired and worth money, something like 7K on my c8. I pass on 1LT cars after having 2LT.
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HUD is another useless thing as is heated seats...(most people hide their Vettes in winter) I turned my hud off after two months on my c7 and its a lot better than what is in a c6...Yes I do me well, more than 52 cars.......Happy Motoring...
I have HUD in my C5. I forget it's even there. It's basically a talking point when people look at my car. I could care less if it had it or not. My car gets put away in winter, heated seats and mirrors are useless to me. I wish it had air conditioned seats, I love them.
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2LT options are desired and worth money, something like 7K on my c8. I pass on 1LT cars after having 2LT.
A C8 is a different beast. It falls into the category of modern cars that are littered with technology.
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Old Jul 13, 2024 | 10:16 AM
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A C8 is a different beast. It falls into the category of modern cars that are littered with technology.



exactly....and when a 2020 c8 is 11 years old option value will be greatly reduced...if not sooner..imo

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Old Jul 13, 2024 | 11:14 AM
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exactly....and when a 2020 c8 is 11 years old option value will be greatly reduced...if not sooner..imo
I'd say this is accurate, but there's also the market to watch. Lower options, just like certain colors are going to be harder to move when the prices are similar to more desirable cars. There are several decent c6 1lt models around me that have been sitting on dealer lots for months. While the 2 and 3lt cars are moving, the 1lt cars are sitting with the dealers slowly lowering asking prices. Nobody wants to hear it, but the base model cars aren't worth 30k anymore except the cars with extremely low mileage. My 07 3lt with 11k was 28k 2.5 years ago when covid had used car prices inflated. When looking around the 1lt cars were very similar in price to the 3lt cars. I wanted the 3lt car and would've been okay with a 2lt. Minus a smoking deal that wasn't available there wasn't any interest in a 1lt here. If I was looking at a GS or Z06, option package would have been less of a factor. Nobody values a corvette like its owner. Still guys asking 32k for 05's with 40k miles on them. All this leaves out the guys who price their car at the top of the market and then add every dollar they've spent in upgrades to the asking price because they don't understand how it works.
Anyway.....if you want a car to move the way to get it done is price it to move.
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What people neglect is that outside of boomers who are like "blargh in my day cars only had one speaker and you used the choke for more than just in bed", most people who are spending $30k or so are gonna expect the 3LT features, especially if they're priced "only a couple hundred bucks more".

So when people want to sell their 1LT they can either hope a boomer.comea along wanting to not have those features, or they can price it aggressively enough to attract someone who can rationalize the missing feature to themselves.
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What people neglect is that outside of boomers who are like "blargh in my day cars only had one speaker and you used the choke for more than just in bed", most people who are spending $30k or so are gonna expect the 3LT features, especially if they're priced "only a couple hundred bucks more".

So when people want to sell their 1LT they can either hope a boomer.comea along wanting to not have those features, or they can price it aggressively enough to attract someone who can rationalize the missing feature to themselves.
I think the point was a few more bells and whistles isn't going to make much of a difference on a 15 year old car. The things that matter more on an older car is style, color, motor, condition, etc. Heated seats or an outdated navigation system isn't going to move the needle much.

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I think the point was a few more bells and whistles isn't going to make much of a difference on a 15 year old car. The things that matter more on an older car is style, color, motor, condition, etc. Heated seats or an outdated navigation system isn't going to move the needle much.
if that's the case then here's where we are in my area with c6 narrow body values. They started around 29k asking. 1lt. Ive seen it and its clean

https://www.dalehowardwaverly.com/us...YY25U375132307
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I think the point was a few more bells and whistles isn't going to make much of a difference on a 15 year old car. The things that matter more on an older car is style, color, motor, condition, etc. Heated seats or an outdated navigation system isn't going to move the needle much.
Totally agree, body style, engine,, transmission, and color are the big things. But features will matter to people. It's definitely not the top priority for people, but it's definitely a factor that isn't something people don't care about. Corvettes aren't a Corolla or Camry someone buys because their old car died this morning and they need a new car today. Realistically, everything matters on a Corvette.

And location matters so much. While many of our retired boomer friend shere might not care, most people can't take a week to go fly across country to look at a car and maybe drive it back. I've been perusing for an E39 M5 lately, and even a car that's like 3 hours away seems like it's WAY too far and too much hassle.
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Originally Posted by FAUEE
What people neglect is that outside of boomers who are like "blargh in my day cars only had one speaker and you used the choke for more than just in bed", most people who are spending $30k or so are gonna expect the 3LT features, especially if they're priced "only a couple hundred bucks more".

So when people want to sell their 1LT they can either hope a boomer.comea along wanting to not have those features, or they can price it aggressively enough to attract someone who can rationalize the missing feature to themselves.



And not for nothing but the base sound system sounds way better than the bose....







and edit for don't get me wrong....If I had a 4lt and trying to sell I'd be trying any pitch I could to try and up the value....but in my many wheeling and dealings I know out dated options don't help with value...do think they help when the cars are newer....and when I buy new I prbably go for a few more options more than not, in Chevy's case, i'd probably get 2lt in a Vette...or not...

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I have HUD in my C5. I forget it's even there. It's basically a talking point when people look at my car. I could care less if it had it or not. My car gets put away in winter, heated seats and mirrors are useless to me. I wish it had air conditioned seats, I love them.
agree....

I'd go for the cool seats...and hoped they were better than what I had in the c7....My Challengers cool seats worked better to my butt cheeks...
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Thanks again to all the participants in this discussion. I will consider the comments.
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Daryl, you certainly have picked up some interesting input here with some good back and forth debate. Obviously, I am just one person and can only speak for what I would be looking for, but it’s another viewpoint, kind of between what has emerged as the two main camps.

First of all, most of us here are enthusiasts who care for our cars more than the average Joe. So we expect a premium. Nothing wrong with that as long as it sells. IMO, options represent the old adage, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Where I live, I am fortunate enough to drive year around (not in inclement weather, however). So, in the winter, I love my heated seats. I find that I use my HUD a lot, so that option is a plus as well. The memory seats are a nice option so that if my wife ever drives (twice so far is all) we can get everything set with a push of a button and no fiddling around. The NAV, as others have said, is dated, so I have a mount for my phone.

Basically, most of your options for someone in my New Balances are useful. Your mileage is middle of the road, not real low, not real high. You just gotta reach the right person, and like some of the others have said, maybe lower your price to entice. To me, your location is inconsequential as if someone wants your car it can either be shipped or they can take a really cool road trip getting it home. I had mine shipped from Florida to Texas.

Just wanted to give you another perspective. GLWTS!
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And not for nothing but the base sound system sounds way better than the bose....







and edit for don't get me wrong....If I had a 4lt and trying to sell I'd be trying any pitch I could to try and up the value....but in my many wheeling and dealings I know out dated options don't help with value...do think they help when the cars are newer....and when I buy new I prbably go for a few more options more than not, in Chevy's case, i'd probably get 2lt in a Vette...or not...
You're out of your mind, or just have **** hearing. The bose system isn't amazing sounding, but the base system does NOT sound better, lol.

1LT cars are IMO, great blank canvases form those who like to mod cars. You can do your own HUD install and your own audio upgrades and your own new seats and heaters and whatever without paying for it, and a lot of what's out in the aftermarket will work better than the stuff that came new. But if you're not a modder, a 1LT is just car without some pretty basic features.
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You're out of your mind, or just have **** hearing. The bose system isn't amazing sounding, but the base system does NOT sound better, lol.

1LT cars are IMO, great blank canvases form those who like to mod cars. You can do your own HUD install and your own audio upgrades and your own new seats and heaters and whatever without paying for it, and a lot of what's out in the aftermarket will work better than the stuff that came new. But if you're not a modder, a 1LT is just car without some pretty basic features.


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I'm going to chime in about the Bose stereo systems. I'm an audiophile. In my home I have very high end stereo systems, it's been a hobby since I was a kid. In audio circles, the name Bose isn't used when talking about high end, good sound or quality. It's mass market name brand recognition only. That said, I have not changed the Bose speakers in my C5 nor will I when my C6 arrives this week. Why? Because it's a car stereo and my cars are convertibles. I don't see the point of upgrading a stereo that's hard to hear over the wind and exhaust. It sounds fine.
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Also the 1LT vs 3LT bring "a couple hundred bucks differenxe if anyone cares". Nah bro. That's just something that 1LT owners say. It's a couple grand, and a lot of people won't even consider a 1LT. Frankly, the 3LT should have been the base model. Stuff like heated and memory seats is never "outdated tech".

Yes, I know you can add most of it aftermarket. But also, that's beyond the capability or desire of most people. So don't fall into the trap that options don't matter, options is a huge factor for many buyers, albeit under color and transmission.
Heated and memory may not be dated but most don't care. I don't drive my car in "heated seat" months and I'm the only one that drives it so memory seats are moot. Not to mention the only memory part is the bottom half of the seat. Not that hard to remember the seat goes all the way back.
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Heated and memory may not be dated but most don't care. I don't drive my car in "heated seat" months and I'm the only one that drives it so memory seats are moot. Not to mention the only memory part is the bottom half of the seat. Not that hard to remember the seat goes all the way back.
The old folks like the memory seats because they slide back and forth automatically to ease in exit. I use mine to set up seat 2 for track and autocross stuff. The me.ory also saves the mirrors and steering wheel position I think (maybe not the wheel but pretty sure on the mirrors). I at one point had seat position 2 set to lower the side mirrors to help see when backing up next to curbs

Heated seats are just nice in the morning. Even here in Florida I put the heated seats on low most mornings in all the cars. Makes driving to work a little more relaxing. The X5 lets you do heating, cooling, and massaging all at the same time, it's absolutely stupendous.
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Heated and memory may not be dated but most don't care. I don't drive my car in "heated seat" months and I'm the only one that drives it so memory seats are moot. Not to mention the only memory part is the bottom half of the seat. Not that hard to remember the seat goes all the way back.
I agree. Neither make any difference to me. My car never goes out when it's cold anyway. I wish my C6 had air conditioned seats. I have them in my Lincoln and I love them.
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