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Old Jun 6, 2003 | 03:06 AM
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Default Magnesium and C6

I thought I'd poke around to see what's up with magnesium.
To date, it appears to be showing up in the following
places on certain vehicles:

Steering Column Assemblies, Steering Wheels,
Instrument Panels, Seat Frames,
Engine Valve Covers,
Manual Transmission Housings,
Automatic Transmission Housings,
Transfer Cases, Wheels, Intake Manifolds

Here are some website for the curious. I get the impression
that a car with 50kg. of magnesium is a very special car.
http://www.magnesium.com/w3/data-ban...&magnesium=286

The next two have good lists of potential applications
http://www.transportation.anl.gov/pdfs/TA/101.pdf
http://www.thixomat.com/press.asp

Here's some miscellaneous stuff:
http://www.intlmag.org/news-events.html
http://www.magnesium.noranda.com/img/high.pdf
http://www.sae.org/automag/metals/12.htm
http://www.sae.org/automag/techbriefs_06-00/05.htm
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Old Jun 6, 2003 | 06:52 AM
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Default Re: Magnesium and C6 (Runge_Kutta)

Porsche uses the metal rather extensively. Even made several complete space frames from it and raced them quite successfully.
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Old Jun 6, 2003 | 08:12 AM
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Just make sure you never ever ever get that magnesium to ignite. :eek: :lol:
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Old Jun 6, 2003 | 09:13 AM
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Just make sure you never ever ever get that magnesium to ignite. :eek: :lol:
:iagree: I was in army aviation and we took careful steps to avoid that! I have to think that titanium and carbon fiber are better answers.
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Old Jun 6, 2003 | 09:44 AM
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That was an interesting article :cheers:
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Old Jun 6, 2003 | 11:06 AM
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A friend of the company got his Viper GTSR Competition Coup earlier this year. The wheels were made of magnesium and were ultra light as well as other parts of the car. Even with the tires on the wheels, you could play a game of catch with them. I don't expect to see much magnesium in the C6 any but I wouldn't be surprised if magnesium was used in the C6R. Actually, I expect it.


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Old Jun 6, 2003 | 11:28 AM
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Mag is a wonderful weight savings. But I have seen several fires during the machining of mag parts by machinists with 10-15 years experiance with the metal. It does not like friction, it WILL flame on you.
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Old Jun 6, 2003 | 07:04 PM
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With the exception of wheels, I think Carbonfiber would be a better solution for all of the items you listed. It's even lighter, and doesn't flame up on you like Mg does.
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hey we can get carbon fiber half shafts for our C3s and those take some force on them so why not make rims from fiber, looks a bit wierd but all black rims and tires might be worth it, mmm 1 pound rims.

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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 02:30 AM
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I thought Magnesium was a soft metal :confused:
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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 03:34 AM
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I don't think Carbon Fiber would be as effective for valve covers as Mg would. Mg is much cheaper and would probably weigh the same as CF in a valve cover application since the CF would have to be thick where the bolts go thru on the mounting surface.


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I thought Magnesium was a soft metal :confused:
Depends on what you do with it. Steel can be soft, too. It's all about the forge or cast method and what you've mixed into it.
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Carbon Fiber has resin in it right? Will the resin maintain shape long term when exposed to the engine heat that valve covers would see? I don't recall ever seeing CF valvecovers on any racing or production engine. Have I just missed something?

CF would be a great soluntion to save weight many places in the car, but manufacturing costs and quality issues must be resolved first. If they have done that already (Comm. Ed. hood) then look for expanded use throughout the car. But I'm not sure about the VCovers.
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