C6 passive entry/push button start
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C6 passive entry/push button start
I believe this has been discussed, but I couldn't find it in a search. I assume this will be the same system as the XLR, but my question is "Why?" Is there some advantage that I don't see beyond the exercise of technology? What do you do if the battery dies in the fob? (Obviously replace it, but I've had to use the key for my Aurora when the keyless entry fob had a dead battery and I hadn't replaced it yet.) Also, what do I do when I want to lock the Vette while I'm running. It's easy to hook a simple key on your shoelace, but I'm not sure I want to run 10 miles with an expensive key fob flopping on my shoe in the rain and mud. I'm also a little curious what happens when I get in the driver's seat with my fob and my wife has hers in her purse over on the passenger side. Whose settings will the Vette choose?????
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Re: C6 passive entry/push button start (Hoosier Red)
but my question is "Why?" Is there some advantage that I don't see beyond the exercise of technology?
Leadership - Corvette is Chevy's flag ship and should have the best of the newest technology.
Safety - If you are fleeing an attacker (or angry spouse :lol: ) you don't have to fumble through your pockets or purse (especially a purse) for your keys. As long as you have the fob somewhere on you, you will be able to open the door and start the car. Additionally, you almost never have to worry about locking your keys in.
Appearance. No lock cylinder to detract from the lines of the car.
What do you do if the battery dies in the fob?
Also, what do I do when I want to lock the Vette while I'm running.
It's easy to hook a simple key on your shoelace, but I'm not sure I want to run 10 miles with an expensive key fob flopping on my shoe in the rain and mud.
I'm also a little curious what happens when I get in the driver's seat with my fob and my wife has hers in her purse over on the passenger side. Whose settings will the Vette choose?????
[Modified by Scissors, 10:56 AM 12/14/2003]
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Re: C6 passive entry/push button start (Hoosier Red)
Corvette has historically gotten trickle down technology that debuted on other product lines as and when it served GM's purposes. Partially, that's because it hasn't been necessary to trick up the car since a percentage of buyers have wanted it for performance, not gadgetry.
By moving toward what some view as gratuitous technology, GM runs the risk of shunting a portion of those consumers to other makes. It is possible that GM views that portion of purchasers as either shrinking or becoming irrelevant, for whatever reason. FWIW.
By moving toward what some view as gratuitous technology, GM runs the risk of shunting a portion of those consumers to other makes. It is possible that GM views that portion of purchasers as either shrinking or becoming irrelevant, for whatever reason. FWIW.
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Re: C6 passive entry/push button start (Scissors)
Also, what do I do when I want to lock the Vette while I'm running.
Shouldn't leave a running car unattended anyway. It's not safe and a thief will just bust out the window regardless.
Shouldn't leave a running car unattended anyway. It's not safe and a thief will just bust out the window regardless.
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Re: C6 passive entry/push button start (vizkiz)
Ok - so there is still a key that can open the car without the fob? And in the event the battery is dead in the key fob, is there a way to start the car with just the key as well? Vizkiz.....thank you for clarifying that I'm not leaving the car running.....I'll do the running thank you very much. And no, I don't wear those silly spandex pants. Those went out in the 1980's!!
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Re: C6 passive entry/push button start (Hoosier Red)
Ok - so there is still a key that can open the car without the fob? And in the event the battery is dead in the key fob, is there a way to start the car with just the key as well? Vizkiz.....thank you for clarifying that I'm not leaving the car running.....I'll do the running thank you very much. And no, I don't wear those silly spandex pants. Those went out in the 1980's!!
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Re: C6 passive entry/push button start (Hoosier Red)
Ok - so there is still a key that can open the car without the fob? And in the event the battery is dead in the key fob, is there a way to start the car with just the key as well? Vizkiz.....thank you for clarifying that I'm not leaving the car running.....I'll do the running thank you very much. And no, I don't wear those silly spandex pants. Those went out in the 1980's!!
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Re: C6 passive entry/push button start (rwd)
Corvette has historically gotten trickle down technology that debuted on other product lines as and when it served GM's purposes. ....
By moving toward what some view as gratuitous technology, ......
By moving toward what some view as gratuitous technology, ......
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Re: C6 passive entry/push button start (mapman)
I have driven an XLR and actually the real problem is this: If your standing near your car, your friend or some criminal can jump into your car and speed off and as long as he never shuts it off, he can drive cross country.
I like it other then that though.
I like it other then that though.
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Re: C6 passive entry/push button start (zphantom)
I have driven an XLR and actually the real problem is this: If your standing near your car, your friend or some criminal can jump into your car and speed off and as long as he never shuts it off, he can drive cross country.
I like it other then that though.
I like it other then that though.
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Re: C6 passive entry/push button start (mapman)
Some day car keys will be on the "Antiques Road Show", and they will wonder about this key with a "50" and two crossed flags. :)
And then they'll have a good laugh about proximity systems. :D
So, the bright spot is that the inherent liabilities of this spurious technology are forcing GM to put OnStar on Corvettes after all these years? :)
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Re: C6 passive entry/push button start (zphantom)
I have driven an XLR and actually the real problem is this: If your standing near your car, your friend or some criminal can jump into your car and speed off and as long as he never shuts it off, he can drive cross country.
I like it other then that though.
I like it other then that though.
I'm pretty sure that the car will not start unless the the fob is actually inside the car and most likely the moment you got out it would shut down the engine.
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Re: C6 passive entry/push button start (DngrZne)
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I'm pretty sure that the car will not start unless the the fob is actually inside the car .....
I'm pretty sure that the car will not start unless the the fob is actually inside the car .....
GM had an XLR at the NCM Labor Day celebration. The car would not start unless the key fob was inside the car. (My wife tried to start it.)
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Re: C6 passive entry/push button start (DngrZne)
I'm pretty sure that the car will not start unless the the fob is actually inside the car and most likely the moment you got out it would shut down the engine.
But I hope this doesn't happen because I really like the idea.
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Re: C6 passive entry/push button start (C6-XTSY)
That could be easily avoided by a little code in the computer that prevents the engine from being shut down while speed is greater then zero.
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Re: C6 passive entry/push button start (DngrZne)
That could be easily avoided by a little code in the computer that prevents the engine from being shut down while speed is greater then zero.
Seriously, though, the C6 and XLR only check for the fob when the door handle is operated or the push-button start is operated. If it continually checked for the fob, it would wear the fob's battery down just on a long cruise.
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Re: C6 passive entry/push button start (DngrZne)
I'm pretty sure that the car will not start unless the the fob is actually inside the car and most likely the moment you got out it would shut down the engine.
