6 Speed Auto Confirmation
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Burning Brakes
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From: Folsom Ca
6 Speed Auto Confirmation
http://www.local735uaw.org/union/bargadminrpt6-3-04.pdf
Pay attention to the part of when the six speed auto begins production in the second subtitle: "New Work" section. This is taken directly from the local union newsletter.
Pay attention to the part of when the six speed auto begins production in the second subtitle: "New Work" section. This is taken directly from the local union newsletter.
Burning Brakes
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the six speed auto begins production
This is the news (and the tranny) I've been waiting for!
My concerns are that with three variants being offered, that the latter (or final) version might be into mid next year (at least) before we'll see it... is this a proper translation?
If '06 production is starting with the 6L80, then the 6L50 will be already making its way into earlier models (or prototypes?) and the 6L90 wil be the final (perhaps paddle-shifter notion people have wished for) version?
Can't wait until this thread is expanded upon for further, with more in-debth details from those in the know and/or those who can produce specific insight on this matter. Perhaps there are more articles which support the PDF file announcement...
Great stuff. Super posting!
What can we suppose the differences are between these variants?
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Originally Posted by DigitalGriffin
I'm obviously guessing, but the difference would most likely be gear ratios and transmission coolers. Changes in the programmed shift range are a given. (ie: more agressive shifts for Z06 versions.)
Typically, the 6 means 6 speed, L means rear wheel drive application, and 50/80/90 etc means torque capacity of transmission with 50 being the lowest and 90 being the highest. All would be based on the same transmission with the same gear ratios.
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Originally Posted by JoesC5
Typically, the 6 means 6 speed, L means rear wheel drive application, and 50/80/90 etc means torque capacity of transmission with 50 being the lowest and 90 being the highest. All would be based on the same transmission with the same gear ratios.
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Originally Posted by David Lasic
http://www.local735uaw.org/union/bargadminrpt6-3-04.pdf
Pay attention to the part of when the six speed auto begins production in the second subtitle: "New Work" section. This is taken directly from the local union newsletter.
Pay attention to the part of when the six speed auto begins production in the second subtitle: "New Work" section. This is taken directly from the local union newsletter.
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Burning Brakes
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Typically, the 6 means 6 speed, L means rear wheel drive application, and 50/80/90 etc means torque capacity of transmission with 50 being the lowest and 90 being the highest. All would be based on the same transmission with the same gear ratios.
Nice job. Thanks!
Burning Brakes
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That is all we current C-6 owners need who who have A-4's on the way and are waiting for our cars to be built. ... a layoff. Just think of the morale of the person working on your car when they hear that
For me, with F55 offering essentially two driving modes in one, and now with an auto that correlates extra gears (perhaps with "touch shift" or even steering wheel levers), the combination is the right one to have with my geographical location and driving situations.
I cannot say that I 'can't wait', as after all, I have been waiting all along. But I'll be in hot pursuit of all the intricate details I can get on this new development en route to placing an order, as soon as the specifics will merit this.
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Burning Brakes
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Originally Posted by c2jones
Great educational response. That's the good part of the forum being instrumental here. (We need more of this and less of 'mine's better than yours' commentary within this forum.)
Nice job. Thanks!
Nice job. Thanks!
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From: Ocean Springs MS
Originally Posted by JoesC5
Typically, the 6 means 6 speed, L means rear wheel drive application, and 50/80/90 etc means torque capacity of transmission with 50 being the lowest and 90 being the highest. All would be based on the same transmission with the same gear ratios.
Team Owner
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From: Short Hills, NJ
Originally Posted by fdxpilot
I have to go with this answer. Notice that the new A4 that came into use during 04 and carried over to the C6 is a 4LE65 (4 spd Rwd Electronic control 65) and its prime claim to fame over the previous 4LE60 is a higher torque capacity.
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From: Kingwood TX
Originally Posted by JoesC5
Typically, the 6 means 6 speed, L means rear wheel drive application, and 50/80/90 etc means torque capacity of transmission with 50 being the lowest and 90 being the highest. All would be based on the same transmission with the same gear ratios.
They are not necessarily going to be based on the same transmission. Typically if GM is going to raise the torque on the same "housing" they will go to a "5" suffix...as in 4-L65E instead of 4-L60E. The same goes for front drivers...they have a 4-T60 and a 4-T65E that are "basically" the same...the major difference on those two is the electronic control features. I am guessing the 50 is the one you will be seeing in the Vette and the 80/90 variants will be in the trucks with MUCH larger cases. This is taken from the current 4-L80E that is in the trucks. Hope this helps. As a GM ASEP instructor, I haven't seen any news of these transmissions...but you know GM...tell the guys that need to know last...LOL.
Burning Brakes
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From: spring Grove illinois
Originally Posted by DigitalGriffin
I'm obviously guessing, but the difference would most likely be gear ratios and transmission coolers. Changes in the programmed shift range are a given. (ie: more agressive shifts for Z06 versions.)
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From: CO
Originally Posted by Fuelie driver
You will never see a Z06 with with an automatic!!!!! Dave Hill stated there will not be one in the Z!!!
Team Owner
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From: Short Hills, NJ
Originally Posted by flood
Z's shouldn't be sold with AC, power steering , radio or carpets......
Maybe skip the power windows/door locks/seats/mirrors along with maybe traction control and leather as well to make the cars lighter.
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Old news?
Came across this randomly that also seems to confirm -
http://www.gminsidenews.com/forum/in...showtopic=7575
http://www.gminsidenews.com/forum/in...showtopic=7575