500 HP? Simple!
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500 HP? Simple!
15 HP from Torco
30+ HP from long tube headers
25+ HP from cold air intake
Damn. 470 HP with just bolt-ons and a chemical additive. A few stickers, a 160 degree thermostat, and a throttle body bypass and 500 HP is yours for the taking! It's simple, guys!
30+ HP from long tube headers
25+ HP from cold air intake
Damn. 470 HP with just bolt-ons and a chemical additive. A few stickers, a 160 degree thermostat, and a throttle body bypass and 500 HP is yours for the taking! It's simple, guys!
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Originally Posted by willisit
Wouldn't those mods collectively be worth less than their stand alone power values?
Yeah that was vague but I know what I mean
Yeah that was vague but I know what I mean
Although the Torco should theoretically not be reduced in effect by the presence of the other listed mods. Come to think of it, the two listed bolt-ons should not have any bearing on each other. The intake supposedly reduces the drag on the incoming air and provides a cooler, denser charge. Whereas the exhaust reduces restriction in the exhaust cycle. They should actually reinforce each other.
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Originally Posted by Sully C5
It's amazing how advertized increases rarely achieve their optomistic predictions. 
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Originally Posted by jimman
I pushed back on a vendors claim of a 44 foot pound increase from their headers and got slamed by the forum. Still haven't seen their dyno chart.
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Originally Posted by Scissors
15 HP from Torco
30+ HP from long tube headers
25+ HP from cold air intake
Damn. 470 HP with just bolt-ons and a chemical additive. A few stickers, a 160 degree thermostat, and a throttle body bypass and 500 HP is yours for the taking! It's simple, guys!
30+ HP from long tube headers
25+ HP from cold air intake
Damn. 470 HP with just bolt-ons and a chemical additive. A few stickers, a 160 degree thermostat, and a throttle body bypass and 500 HP is yours for the taking! It's simple, guys!
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Originally Posted by da747
the ecm proramming is set for specified backpressures, plus GM's target fuel mileage. i bet you would have to reflash the ecm to get that kind of power. also i could see the 30 hp from the headers, but i would be very skeptical about 25+ hp from an intake, especially on a c6.
So, according to some vendors, GM must be screwing up. Because with just programming, an intake, and headers 500 HP should be simple for a 6.0
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I guess you are talking about 500 flywheel HP, not RWHP. Regardless, I have not read any of the forum supporting tuners saying getting to 500 FWHP is easy on the LS2. In the C6 Tech forum, one well respected tuner had a thread stating after a mild cam, AFR heads, and headers he is at 393 RWHP (which makes him well below 500 FWHP). These are slightly more substantial mods than the ones you suggested. Also, LS2 Edit is not yet available to dyno tune such mods to extract more HP. Regarding advertisers selling their magic HPs...well buyer beware. That's why you need to do your research before you crack open your wallet. I suppose that is the point of your thread. We do have a number of tuners that are working hard on the LS2 R&D to squeeze big HPs out of this motor but are limited for now due to lack of tuning tools.
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Scissors my friend, once again you are jumping the gun w/o dyno'd proof. 
There is no possible way that The C6 will be nearly that easy to gain hp w/o the proper R&D of a hood seal replacement. I also have not heard any news on the magnetic oil plug mod, but assuming it's the same you forgot 11-13 easy ponies. 
There is no possible way that The C6 will be nearly that easy to gain hp w/o the proper R&D of a hood seal replacement. I also have not heard any news on the magnetic oil plug mod, but assuming it's the same you forgot 11-13 easy ponies.
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Originally Posted by Tenderfoot
I guess you are talking about 500 flywheel HP, not RWHP. Regardless, I have not read any of the forum supporting tuners saying getting to 500 FWHP is easy on the LS2. In the C6 Tech forum, one well respected tuner had a thread stating after a mild cam, AFR heads, and headers he is at 393 RWHP (which makes him well below 500 FWHP). These are slightly more substantial mods than the ones you suggested. Also, LS2 Edit is not yet available to dyno tune such mods to extract more HP. Regarding advertisers selling their magic HPs...well buyer beware. That's why you need to do your research before you crack open your wallet. I suppose that is the point of your thread. We do have a number of tuners that are working hard on the LS2 R&D to squeeze big HPs out of this motor but are limited for now due to lack of tuning tools.
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Originally Posted by Scissors
15 HP from Torco
30+ HP from long tube headers
25+ HP from cold air intake
Damn. 470 HP with just bolt-ons and a chemical additive. A few stickers, a 160 degree thermostat, and a throttle body bypass and 500 HP is yours for the taking! It's simple, guys!
30+ HP from long tube headers
25+ HP from cold air intake
Damn. 470 HP with just bolt-ons and a chemical additive. A few stickers, a 160 degree thermostat, and a throttle body bypass and 500 HP is yours for the taking! It's simple, guys!
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Originally Posted by BuckyThreadkiller
What if it is really a PERCENTAGE increase? You could change the amount of horsepower by simply changing the order in which you add the mods!
Pin down lager99 on the HP boosts from the hood seal replacement and the magnetic oil plug mod and it's 600 easy.
I could do this at home.
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Originally Posted by Tenderfoot
I guess you are talking about 500 flywheel HP, not RWHP.
Regardless, I have not read any of the forum supporting tuners saying getting to 500 FWHP is easy on the LS2.
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Here in the UK (man are you guys gonna get sick of that!) we have a magazine called "Max Power". It's more **** than cars (despite it's claims) and features a lot of these "mods" for various cars.
What eventually happens is that you'll see an 1100c Ford Fiesta on there with an estimated "300bhp". From a cam, cold air kit and a "chip". Of course, it's more in jest that reality (not always though!).
You get lists like:
Cold air feed +30bhp
Exhaust muffler +25bhp
Rear window sticker +65bhp
Shiney exhaust trim +150bhp
"Go faster" stripe +85bhp
NOS sticker +250bhp
Total = 950bhp (allowing for "making it up" tax)
What eventually happens is that you'll see an 1100c Ford Fiesta on there with an estimated "300bhp". From a cam, cold air kit and a "chip". Of course, it's more in jest that reality (not always though!).
You get lists like:
Cold air feed +30bhp
Exhaust muffler +25bhp
Rear window sticker +65bhp
Shiney exhaust trim +150bhp
"Go faster" stripe +85bhp
NOS sticker +250bhp
Total = 950bhp (allowing for "making it up" tax)
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Originally Posted by willisit
Here in the UK (man are you guys gonna get sick of that!) we have a magazine called "Max Power". It's more **** than cars...
How do I get a copy??
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Originally Posted by Scissors
Yes. That would be the logical conclusion.
Exactly. The tuners are not, but if you add up the supposed gains from some of the vendors...
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Exactly. The tuners are not, but if you add up the supposed gains from some of the vendors...
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. There are a lot of newbies checking out the C6 and may not necessarily be checking out the tech section(s) of the forum. I wanted to clearly point out the challenges of achieving big power which you implied in your cutsie post. The tuners will get the big power, as they have with prior gen vettes once tuning software is available to them .