OregonC6

IMO tastier rumors for 08 concern the 'base' engines move up to perhaps as high as 450. The least will probably be a bump to 425 or 435 thus closing the gap somewhat with the present Z06.

IF, I say IF, the base car moves up to 450 and the present Z06 went away the gap between base would be even greater than at present assuming 600 0r 650 hp. I don't think that makes marketing sense though since the SS ( or whatever ) will be super expensive and produced in perhaps 1/4th or 1/5th the numbers of the present Z06.

I think it more likely that the base C6 will go up to something greater than today be it 425 or 450; the Z06 will go up a bit say to 525 and then the super vette stands tall over all challengers at 600 or 650.

With this approach the base car gains some hp and appeal, the Z06 moves up and maintains its' distance from the base car , and there is no HUGE gap between base and the only other available car.

GM could thus continue to milk the base C6 cash cow, continue to milk the Z06 cash cow, and bring an entirely new cow into the barn with the super vette. In other words they would be increasing their absolute market share by providing a broader range of model options in the Corvette lineup.

And in the process destroy the competition especially if the new 6060 6 speed gets into the 08 model year. Me, I am waiting to replace my 05 until 08 hoping for some of these changes.

just my opinions. I guess I'd enjoy working in GM marketing......

A427MAN

OT - What's the "6060 6 speed tranny"?

roboz

100K (if true) not including dealer mark ups ...IMO that loses the sweet spot the current Z occupies.

100K I'm looking at @ a slightly used Ford GT, an original 426 hemi anything etc...etc.. ( that's just me)

The 08 Viper is supposed to have 600-625hp ...probably sticker mid 80's & you can get it in a rag top.

XLR-V tried for 100K sticker & they were on ebay for 85-89K instantly .

Don't see 3 vette engines plus 2 caddie engines . If anything GM would
undoubtedly love the XLR-V & Z07(?) to share the same power plant.

Economies of scale saves them on cost .

Not to say GM couldn't move a few thousand but then again after the initial frenzy where the Ford GT was selling for around 200K , dealers & the market came back to earth to the point a dealer offered me one @ 10K under sticker & regardless of the extra Z's HP the GT is a beautiful car with only a 2 year run & a few thousand total ever. It's downright exotic compared to any other american sports car.

My 2 cents

pDz

ah. you raise a good point. i didn't know the new Viper specs, but i, too, would prefer a naturally aspirated Viper than a supercharged corvette SS. good call, dude.

ocnatv

I just dont like the idea of a supercharged engine in the supposed "blue devil". I think they should keep the N/A engine bump the horsepower up to 650 and futher lighten the chassy. Also, upgraded materials in the interior. This would be the ultimate vette, but at 100k+++ out of the reach for most people.

Also, hopefully marketing at GM makes available some of the parts that will make up the blue devil us c6 owners.

pDz

me, too.

i'm waiting for OEM carbon fibre hoods and roofs to put on my car.

cbgpe

I am not a big fan of supercharged engines. High parasitic losses. Extra weight , loss in thermodynamic efficiency (the heat you dump out of the intercooler has to be develpoed at the crank) and a higher cg.
I would MUCH prefer a 3 valve push rod or SOC set up with higher volumetric efficiency and maintain the 427 CID engine size, if possible with displacement on demand to avoid a gas guzzler tax or the have the most economical super car out there. IMHO

05C6spdvert

Um Yeah, this is Aston Martin, we're gonna need you to put a restrictor plate on that mmmkay thanks.

vetterdstr

Let them build it... I will look to blow one off the road as soon as I see it.

VR

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caseyse

Most expect 650hp. to go into production in January '07. Displacement will increase to 8.4 ltr., which likely means a new head casting, which is long overdue. This will still be a Gen-3 car, with DC's Gen-4 not expected until '10 (if the Viper is still around). I expect the '08 Z06 to get a HP increase (like all mid-gen vettes) to about 550. So, the '08 Viper will again rise to the top in performance next year.

I wouldn't spend 100k+ on a blown 6.2 ltr. that will get spanked by many lower cost C5/C6 FI cars. For turnkey and people who don't mod (or really drive their cars), it will be nice. For GM to deliver the SS, they will need to spend $$ upgrading brakes, suspension and drive train. This would not be a Z06 w. a FI engine, and would not share many mechanical parts. An unlikely departure for GM's bean counters.

blandcastle

The astons are nice cars, but they are SLOW ! The fastest one they have out is about 13+ seconds in the quarter, my CTS-V would beat that . Aston does not impress me at all . And speak for yourself about your bad service experiences. My experieces have been great. Also don't think for a minute that GM is the worst. My friend that bought a brand new r class mercedes, is driving a loaner car, 500 class,( which broke down on him too), again. This is the 4th time this car has been in for repair, and each time it is for at least two weeks. The first time it was right at a month. Oh and he bought it in august, now thats real german engineering.

Corvette1221

I know this is a bit early to tell for sure, but what about all the reports of test mules being run in Arizona with superchargers on them?

Also, where did you hear about an engine size of 8.4 liters? That's the first time I hear that.

Most of the posts I have found on the subject are talking about a car that will go into production in 2008 not jan 2007. If that was the case don't you think we would have seen one by now? Don't get me wrong, I would love to see one at the 2007 Jan LA Autoshow!

pDz

i wonder if that's the ricardo tranny that is used in the Ford GT and broadly recognized as "better".

roSSco

http://www.cheersandgears.com/forums...howtopic=12804

Cosmic Vette

And wolverines make good house pets.

Halltech

A perfect fuel for TT and SC. 100 Octane out of the pump. Just not available at many stations.

I say, convert all gas stations throughout the US to Regular E0, E85 100 Octane, and Premium E0 (93 Octane)

The middle grade is a joke, and the tanks could be used for E85.

One more step away from Iranian, and Hugo Oil (Citgo).

ddecart

660+ posts because someone took a pic of a Z06 with a hood pimple?

Cosmic Vette

Halltech

That's a 2007 Z06 with an LS9 onboard for testing only. The actual car will not have a pimple.

Maybe well get lucky and it will look like the Cadi Cien