blandcastle

Oh sure.....and they got all that money by being stupid right? It never ceases to amaze me. Jealousy is an ugly thing isn't it? BTW interpretation: I haven't got enough means to buy one of these awesome cars, so I will dog all the guys that have paid over msrp, even though it is none of my business . I am not rich by any stretch of the imagination, but I had no problem dishing out 4k extra for my Z. I would do it again without hesitation. It comes down to this. If you have worked hard and know that you deserve something special, or if you simply have the means, you get it , even if it costs a little more than wannabes say that you should pay for it. Its about living, and if you don't get it, you probably won't ever get it. Go drive your vw and have fun. I am sure you can get one of those for msrp...that will make you feel better.

PeterK

I never said they (you) were stupid. The fact that they (you) have more money than brains, in no way, shape or form implies that you lack brains. I mean this is all relative, one could be a genius and have so much money that they (you) just don't care for a small extra fee when it comes to their gratification!

blandcastle

If I were a genius, I would have someone to do my replies for me.

Exterminator

That's more like it...

outnumbered

:o

sly1

The value of any commodity is determined at the market place and not by the manufacturer. Porsche made the mistake of charging over $90K for their 40th anniversary 911 and had to offer over $10K rebates to their Dealers to move the cars. GM without question priced the Z too low, and the Dealers are reaping the awards of that error. The sticker price for the Z should be about $10K higher than what GM suggested, at least that's what the market is saying.

95cobraR

It would be something characterized by firm convictions, not on observable or evaluative external perceptions, which are incorrectable; they are caused by the subject's projection of his own emotions to external objects.

This, of course, permits the subject to deny his internal narcissistic mortification and to accept narcissistic mortifications which are indicative of his inability to deal with threatening external objects.

JK, of course, please enjoy both the '06 and '07. I'm sure your dealer has those pesky expensive country club dues and private school education expenses for his kids that someone has to fund.

I just prefer to just pay for the dealer's new golf clubs.

blandcastle

louieT

I don't agree.. GM priced the car right its just demand makes people crazy and they pay more.
Plus they aren't making a million Z's so limit supply and you have a mark up..(In some cases anyway)

Its that simple..

Exterminator

I agree with you wholeheartedly on the above point.

On this point you are mistaken. GM applied the same profit margin they normally assign to a flagship Corvette. That is a high enough mark up for GM to cover cost of goods and make a nice profit.

That does not mean that the selling price should necessarily be above, at, or below, MSRP. As you previously pointed out , the market determines what the actual selling price point shall be.

I believe that too many people are looking at MSRP as though it is some sort of Holy Grail when it is just an arbitrary figure. Supply and Demand will always be the ultimate determination of price point - period.

Hoonose

I agree with all else that you say, but...

Please tell us how you would know the above?

beden1

I think I have always viewed buying cars (I currently own 6 cars that I paid cash for - including an '05 S600 Mercedes), as "the art of the deal". It's a challenge that I thoroughly enjoy. And, since I have paid cash for new cars for the past 20 years, I enter the market when "cash is king". The timing of this is upcoming, as the signs of an economic downcycle are showing their ugly heads, IE: interest rate increases, overvalued stock market, weak job sector, slowing/slipping housing market, weakening retail sales (particularly automobiles), huge consumer debt, high gas prices, and the war in Iraq going badly, etc., etc.

I also determined many years ago, that I really only fully enjoy something that I buy when I feel good about the financial deal, particularly with large purchases.

So, I guess I'll just have to tough it out while I wait for the best timing to buy a ZO6, while driving my C5 and S600. Life is truly a bitch!

Exterminator

OK try this out, GM didn't apply their usual markup. The dealer invoice is their dead cost of production & distribution with no profit whatsoever. Sound believable?

In other words, common sense.

Snorman

Well...I started looking today.
The dealer a few miles from my office has a VY '06 on the floor and is asking $15k, but the number changed to $10k over after a few minutes. I inquired about ordering an '07 for MSRP, and after a brief, behind closed doors, "good cop-bad cop" ploy, was told that would only be ordered for $10 over MSRP as well, with a non-refundable deposit.
I'm in no hurry, and would like to get into one sometime this fall.
BTW...this was Oasis Chevrolet on Route 9 in Sayreville, NJ.
S.

PeterK

Now, that is totally un-ethical.

Snorman

That's why I walked.
Conceivably, the story could have changed, but the initial terms were unacceptable enough.

S.

CMacZ06

It's easy, order one at MSRP and wait awhile or buy one now over....Supply and Demand

A427MAN

Hey, 10 DOLLARS over ain't bad!!! I'd go for it, if I were you! j/k

funshipone

It is just a matter of time I believe by fall of this year. One just sold in Detroit at $5000 over 4 months ago they were getting $10,000 and $15,000 just hang in their.

BLU-BY-U

this market turn is really starting to squeeze a lot of folks ....even z06-7.0 liter graced by the hand of ala-dealers will share the pain soon enough.