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Old 02-03-2007, 09:44 PM
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Test: C6 Z06, Gallardo, 997 Turbo, BMW M6
Auto Motor und Sport (Germany, 2006/12/29)
http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/t...0469_14055.hbs

C6 Z06 took 2nd place after Gallardo, not bad.

But to me the winner is given in their picture below



Here is the technical data, corrected by me because they messed up (reversed the power and price Turbo-Z06??)

1st place (363 from 650, less is better):
Lamborghini Gallardo
Power 382 KW (520 HP DIN)
Acceleration 4.2 s
Elasticity 80-120 km/h in the highest gear 6.6 s
Maximum speed 315 km/h
Test consumption 21.2 L/100 km
Braking from 100 km/h 36 m
Basic price 150800 Euro

2nd place (424 from 650, less is better):
Corvette Z06
Power 377 KW (512 HP DIN)
Acceleration 4.0 s
Elasticity 80-120 km/h in the highest gear 6.1 s
Maximum speed 320 km/h
Test consumption 15.8 L/100 km
Braking from 100 km/h 36 m
Basic price 79950 Euro

3rd place (437 from 650, less is better):
Porsche 911 Turbo
Power 300 KW (408 HP DIN) <= wrong, it is 358 KW
Acceleration 3.7 s
Elasticity 80-120 km/h in the highest gear 5.5 s
Maximum speed 310 km/h
Test consumption 16.6 L/100 km
Braking from 100 km/h 34.1 m
Basic price 113762 Euro

4th place (453 from 650, less is better):
BMW M6
Power 373 KW (507 HP DIN)
Acceleration 4.2 s
Elasticity 80-120 km/h in the highest gear 5.5 s
Maximum speed 250 km/h
Test consumption 17.0 L/100 km
Braking from 100 km/h 35 m
Basic price 116300 Euro


Three questions:
  1. What they mean by that “Elasticity 80-120 km/h in the highest gear”?? Every car has different gearing; to me this is complete rubbish, what relevance this test can have?
  2. How come the heavier M6 brakes better than the Z06 and the Gallardo??
  3. Anyone here kind enough to translate the article? I think it is interesting to read what a major German magazine thinks about the Z06.

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Old 02-03-2007, 10:03 PM
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Im guessing they mean a top gear test from 80-120 and since the zo6 has
a 6 speed it has a disadvantage against a 5 speed car.
Old 02-03-2007, 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by RonnieSVT
Im guessing they mean a top gear test from 80-120 and since the zo6 has
a 6 speed it has a disadvantage against a 5 speed car.
All those cars have a 6 speed manual.
But the gearing (6th gear and final) are way different.
Plus, why would one care about 6th gear?
Old 02-03-2007, 10:24 PM
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6th gear is just overdrive, pretty sure its the same in the Gallardo as well
Old 02-04-2007, 04:46 AM
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All i know i ate a 997 tonight four different times in the Z
Old 02-04-2007, 09:54 AM
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The more you spend your time on magazines and internets, the unhappier you're gonna be with your (any) car.

The more you drive your Z06, the happier you are.

Got Z06? Time to drive, not to surf.
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Originally Posted by Doug411
The more you spend your time on magazines and internets, the unhappier you're gonna be with your (any) car.

The more you drive your Z06, the happier you are.

Got Z06? Time to drive, not to surf.
And where the hell am I supposed to drive it??
Some of us live in winter, snow, lots of salt and cold (-15 Celsius right now).
I know, I know, it's not your fault...


P.S.
I am very happy with my Z06, regardless of what car magazines are saying.
Thing is that most of them have the C6 Z06 in high regards.
For example this German magazine gave it 5 stars in a separate test:
http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/t..._site_number=2

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Old 02-04-2007, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by TeddyFreddy
And where the hell am I supposed to drive it??
Some of us live in winter, snow, lots of salt and cold (-15 Celsius right now).
I know, I know, it's not your fault...
Not any better here in MD
I drove out my Z yesterday, but I was really really carefull about on throttle not to break loose the rear wheels on the ice cold road, suddenly a girl passed looking at me like I was a student driver... and her car was Toyota Echo. I couldn't keep up with her.

Drive safe until ground hogs come out
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Wauw. Great find, and great article. Lets get the English translation.
Thanks

Old 02-04-2007, 12:09 PM
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I also doubt the 6th gear time, but only in that there is no way the Gallardo is SLOWER than the Z06! 6th as we all know is an intergalactic overdrive used purely to sneak past US gas guzzler taxes.

The Gallardo has a proper 6th gear like the other 2 cars and with 520bhp at its disposal is not going to be slower than the M6 let alone the Z06...
Old 02-04-2007, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by David_Yu
I also doubt the 6th gear time, but only in that there is no way the Gallardo is SLOWER than the Z06! 6th as we all know is an intergalactic overdrive used purely to sneak past US gas guzzler taxes.

The Gallardo has a proper 6th gear like the other 2 cars and with 520bhp at its disposal is not going to be slower than the M6 let alone the Z06...
Maybe, but at 50MPH in 6th all of the cars are so far out the powerband that I don't think the test statistic means much.
Old 02-04-2007, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by TeddyFreddy
[*]How come the heavier M6 brakes better than the Z06 and the Gallardo??
Braking comes down mainly to tires but you might get a little slight advantage with perfect dynamic proportioning but that can only help when the brakes are first applied before the weight transitions forward. Also if the proportioning is set too far to the front the rear may be breaking less than it actually could and this will hurt stopping distance.

The big brakes/lighter weight of the Gallardo and Z06 for the most part only help repeated stops in eliminating brake fade.
Old 02-04-2007, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by NC_EB_Z06
All i know i ate a 997 tonight four different times in the Z
So, your 500 HP car is faster than a 325 HP car.... wow. Impressive.
And did your roof stay on while you were doing that???
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Originally Posted by JSMDMD
So, your 500 HP car is faster than a 325 HP car.... wow. Impressive.
And did your roof stay on while you were doing that???
Hey troll, he was talking about the 997 TT. And the only thing that blew off were the doors on the Porsche when the Z06 flew right by it.

Now go away, we don't need more in-denial Porsche owners on here.
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Originally Posted by Zlicious
Hey troll, he was talking about the 997 TT. And the only thing that blew off were the doors on the Porsche when the Z06 flew right by it.

Now go away, we don't need more in-denial Porsche owners on here.
Hmm at the risk of being a traitor, the TT and the Z are pretty darn close in numbers. I doubt even our beloved Z would blow the doors off a TT, it was probably a 997S
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Originally Posted by TeddyFreddy
Test: C6 Z06, Gallardo, 997 Turbo, BMW M6
Auto Motor und Sport (Germany, 2006/12/29)
http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/t...0469_14055.hbs

1st place (363 from 650, less is better):
Lamborghini Gallardo
Power 382 KW (520 HP DIN)
Acceleration 4.2 s
Elasticity 80-120 km/h in the highest gear 6.6 s
Maximum speed 315 km/h
Test consumption 21.2 L/100 km
Braking from 100 km/h 36 m
Basic price 150800 Euro

2nd place (424 from 650, less is better):
Corvette Z06
Power 377 KW (512 HP DIN)
Acceleration 4.0 s
Elasticity 80-120 km/h in the highest gear 6.1 s
Maximum speed 320 km/h
Test consumption 15.8 L/100 km
Braking from 100 km/h 36 m
Basic price 79950 Euro

3rd place (437 from 650, less is better):
Porsche 911 Turbo
Power 300 KW (408 HP DIN) <= wrong, it is 358 KW
Acceleration 3.7 s
Elasticity 80-120 km/h in the highest gear 5.5 s
Maximum speed 310 km/h
Test consumption 16.6 L/100 km
Braking from 100 km/h 34.1 m
Basic price 113762 Euro

4th place (453 from 650, less is better):
BMW M6
Power 373 KW (507 HP DIN)
Acceleration 4.2 s
Elasticity 80-120 km/h in the highest gear 5.5 s
Maximum speed 250 km/h
Test consumption 17.0 L/100 km
Braking from 100 km/h 35 m
Basic price 116300 Euro
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Actually, if you look at the last page on the web site, their summary numbers are all mixed up. First they had the Z06 and the TT out of order, and then the top speeds are are also reversed since we all know that the Z06 has a higher top speed than the TT. Seeing this sloppy table, who know what else is mixed up (acceleration? braking?). If what you listed above is accurate, then it must be the "x" factor that pulled the Gallardo ahead of the Z since it was pretty much beaten or equaled by the Z on every performance category, but yet still came in first place. Go figure.

Being in Germany, as time goes on the popularity of the Z is increasing exponentially, and it shows with the attention I get driving my car around town. One guy asked me how much I paid for the car, and must have been surprised since the German price according to this magazine is around $100K US dollar equivalent.
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Originally Posted by O7zeeO6
Actually, if you look at the last page on the web site, their summary numbers are all mixed up. First they had the Z06 and the TT out of order, and then the top speeds are are also reversed since we all know that the Z06 has a higher top speed than the TT. Seeing this sloppy table, who know what else is mixed up (acceleration? braking?). If what you listed above is accurate, then it must be the "x" factor that pulled the Gallardo ahead of the Z since it was pretty much beaten or equaled by the Z on every performance category, but yet still came in first place. Go figure.

Being in Germany, as time goes on the popularity of the Z is increasing exponentially, and it shows with the attention I get driving my car around town. One guy asked me how much I paid for the car, and must have been surprised since the German price according to this magazine is around $100K US dollar equivalent.
I wrote that they messed the last page: power and price Z06<=>Turbo. I fixed that, my post shows the correct numbers.
Originally Posted by TeddyFreddy
Here is the technical data, corrected by me because they messed up (reversed the power and price Turbo-Z06??)
But the ranking is fine on their web site, page 2 of the article.

So the price for the Z06 is "Basic price 79950 Euro". Is that correct, did you pay a similar price for your Z06 in Europe?

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Originally Posted by TeddyFreddy
I wrote that they messed the last page: power and price Z06<=>Turbo. I fixed that, my post shows the correct numbers.

But the ranking is fine on their web site, page 2 of the article.

So the price for the Z06 is "Basic price 79950 Euro". Is that correct, did you pay a similar price for your Z06 in Europe?
But how do you know if they didn't mix up the numbers on the acceleration and the braking?

I bought the car in the US, so I paid much less than what they pay here in Europe.
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Originally Posted by O7zeeO6
But how do you know if they didn't mix up the numbers on the acceleration and the braking?

I bought the car in the US, so I paid much less than what they pay here in Europe.
We really have no way to tell, once there are mistakes there can be any mistakes in page 3. But that is just the specifications summary.

After reading the entire article it is obvious that the ranking is:
  1. Gallardo
  2. Z06
  3. Turbo
  4. M6
To me it is good news for Z06.


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