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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 03:33 PM
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http://www.autoblog.com/2007/07/12/b...urtesy-of-p-m/

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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 04:04 PM
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Something doesn't add up
First thing they did wrong was quote Jim Dunne. He's a moron. He needs to stick to doing photographs (and bad ones at that).

Second thing they did wrong was listen to Jim Dunne when he quoted an "unnamed Corvette dealer" on a product that hasn't been released. No Corvette dealer, at this point in the game, knows anything about the new SS. Period.

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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by clevay
Look at Edmunds review of the ZO7 or SS.

http://www.edmunds.com/chevrolet/cor...09/review.html
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If is is a true Sequential Shift transmission like in other exotics, I say

If is an automatic with a paddle shifter like we have in the base car today, I say

Using a clutch to launch the car is great but not having to use the clutch to change gears is even better.

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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 10:25 AM
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Launch control like the Lambo would be
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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by dollarbill
If is is a true Sequential Shift transmission like in other exotics, I say

If is an automatic with a paddle shifter like we have in the base car today, I say

Using a clutch to launch the car is great but not having to use the clutch to change gears is even better.

What he said. A $100K sports car with a true automatic - don't think so.
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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 11:07 AM
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Yea read the edmunds review we are getting the same supercharger and intercooler as used by Ferrari. I'm sorry but I don't remember that one.
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The shocker? According to the unnamed dealer, none of GM's manual transmissions are up to the task of handling all the ponies produced by the blown powerplant. The solution: it's getting an automatic.
If they think GM will put an automatic trans in the car because they don't have a manual trans that will hold the torque, they better think again because GM doesn't have an automatic trans that will hold that much power either.
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Originally Posted by runamuk
GM doesn't have an automatic trans that will hold that much power either.
Sure they do. You just wouldn't want it in your car. :-)

(Think: Allison)

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I know everything that is coming out on the Blue Devil, other than the powertrain, is probably pure speculation at this point.

The thought of an automatic in this Super Vette is still hard to take. And I don't see a paddle shift automatic from GM being no where near the level of performance compared to say a Ferrari unit. Not without about a decade of F1 racing R&D behind it.

Who does Dodge outsource their 6-speed trannys from for the Viper? And aren't these Snake 6-speed's practically bullitt proof compared to our C6Z units?

Not like GM will change transmission suppliers just for a limited production Supercar.

Ok I'm done stirring the pot on this one.....
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IMHO I dont think that the " General" has developed an auto trans to handle the output of the current LS7.. With the 2009 supercharged motor, I could be wrong, but I just dont see Corvette offering an Automatic trans with the Z07/SS/Blue Devil or whatever they name it Stay tuned and we will see what happens.

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Originally Posted by clevay

Not like GM will change transmission suppliers just for a limited production Supercar.

Ok I'm done stirring the pot on this one.....
Maybe they use Corvette as a test bed for the rest of the fleet, i mean if they are going to keep up with the rest of the world, they need to start now, i know Ferrari has many years of R&D and delivered products like this for a decade, but hey, GM has to come up with something similar or better ? right ?

So maybe www.zeroshift.com is their new weapon
This is complex, but yet simple solution that noone thought of before, i know it has been installed into a T56 trans,,, so maybe GM is zeroshifts first customer ?

I would love a trans where you keep right foot pinned to the floor and just shift (not counting powershifting) :-)


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Originally Posted by Z06Norway
Maybe they use Corvette as a test bed for the rest of the fleet, i mean if they are going to keep up with the rest of the world, they need to start now, i know Ferrari has many years of R&D and delivered products like this for a decade, but hey, GM has to come up with something similar or better ? right ?

So maybe www.zeroshift.com is their new weapon
This is complex, but yet simple solution that noone thought of before, i know it has been installed into a T56 trans,,, so maybe GM is zeroshifts first customer ?

I would love a trans where you keep right foot pinned to the floor and just shift (not counting powershifting) :-)


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Zeroshift was rumored for the C6 and Z06. If it works as advertised I'd love to have one.
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Old Jul 14, 2007 | 06:45 PM
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LPE has built several cars with hp in excess with the current 6A. No problems reported.
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So there are building 3000 over 2 years.

100k list. What do you think the market adjustment is going to be?

It will easily go 300k plus in the first year.

The Ford GT went 350-500k in the first year and were sold out before they even got to the showroom floors.



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Old Jul 14, 2007 | 09:03 PM
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So there are building 3000 over 2 years.

100k list. What do you think the market adjustment is going to be?

It will easily go 300k plus in the first year.

The Ford GT went 350-500k in the first year and were sold out before they even got to the showroom floors.



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There may be crazy people out there to get the first but the Ford quickly went to 200k total. Dealers can ask whatever they want but the buyers set the price they will pay. The dealer has to decide if they want to pass on their allocation because they aimed too high or to buy the cars and hold them on their inventory and risk loosing 10's of thousands per month as the prices drop.

This guy tracked Ford GT prices.

http://www.fordgtforum.com/forums/sh...es/9/index.htm

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Originally Posted by Patrick McDaniel
There may be crazy people out there to get the first but the Ford quickly went to 200k total. Dealers can ask whatever they want but the buyers set the price they will pay. The dealer has to decide if they want to pass on their allocation because they aimed too high or to buy the cars and hold them on their inventory and risk loosing 10's of thousands per month as the prices drop.

This guy tracked Ford GT prices.

http://www.fordgtforum.com/forums/sh...es/9/index.htm
Cool! Well, I would still doubt to see them under 200k for at least the first 6 months, then maybe closer to 100k.

Good time to get a Z06 at that point!

Thanks for that info.

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Originally Posted by MAJ Z06
Zeroshift was rumored for the C6 and Z06. If it works as advertised I'd love to have one.
+1

I've been waiting for the Zershift technology to make into the mainstream for awhile now.
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 09:42 AM
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I refuse to spend another second speculating or riding on the edge waiting for an auto. I went through that crap with the Z,S and refuse to do that anguish trip again. The last one i bought new was my 05 , it has 3K on the speedo and the other two c5,s about the same with the exception of my ruby and my c3. GM has decided that they have no use for automatic trans drivers and i,m paraplegic, that,s their loss not mine. Fek em. As for that $ 100K price-tag, nonsense.
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by clevay
Who does Dodge outsource their 6-speed trannys from for the Viper? And aren't these Snake 6-speed's practically bullitt proof compared to our C6Z units?
Both Corvette and Viper used the Tremec T56 which has been updated this year. I believe the new Viper uses the new Tremec too. So I guess that means the Vette tranny is bullet proof as well.
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