[ZR1] Huffines Chevy- A Case of Greed
05-07-2008, 12:50 PM
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First, I am saying that no car made by GM in the last 15 years is worth MSRP. I have purchased nearly $160K in CRAP from GM in the last 4 years, and have vowed to never buy crap from GM again, well except for another Z06, but it is still GM.
Second, that it is enthusiast (read, corvette forum members) who mostly keep these jerks alive during the market downturns, and this is the response of these jerks to their niche market group. Look at the current discounts available on Z06's. I have seen supporting vendors giving, or advertising $11,500 off for 2008 Z06's!
I am saying make money, but do not show us the low-life crap that they are by doing these kinds of things to their past customers. The guy whom enetered the agreement with them has bought cars from this dealer in the past, and this is how he is treated.
Lastly, GM stalwart buyers in the past such as I, are turing to Lexus, Infinity, and Acura for their cars instead of Hummer, Cadillac, etc. This is the folly of GM and its dealer network, alienating its customer base.
Second, that it is enthusiast (read, corvette forum members) who mostly keep these jerks alive during the market downturns, and this is the response of these jerks to their niche market group. Look at the current discounts available on Z06's. I have seen supporting vendors giving, or advertising $11,500 off for 2008 Z06's!
I am saying make money, but do not show us the low-life crap that they are by doing these kinds of things to their past customers. The guy whom enetered the agreement with them has bought cars from this dealer in the past, and this is how he is treated.
Lastly, GM stalwart buyers in the past such as I, are turing to Lexus, Infinity, and Acura for their cars instead of Hummer, Cadillac, etc. This is the folly of GM and its dealer network, alienating its customer base.
05-07-2008, 03:58 PM
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Le Mans Master
We'll make sure to add their email address to some gay **** email distribution lists! 
05-07-2008, 09:26 PM
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Le Mans Master
05-07-2008, 09:35 PM
#65
I believe the irony of this thread, notwithstanding my empathy for anyone decieved, is the ZR-1 will be sold to a very few people at the prices we hear about and in this economy and like what has happened to the Z-06 in 2 years (you can buy one for $10,000 under MSRP), this entire issue will go away very quickly. Dealers will be looking for buyers and then it will be your turn. Best
05-08-2008, 11:13 AM
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05-08-2008, 11:15 AM
#68
Well, some of you folks told me it would happen, I just didn't want to believe you. As it turns out, Huffines Chevy in Plano showed their true colors. Just under a year ago I met with the Sales Manager and General Manager and started the ZR-1 list. They assured me at that time, and for many months thereafter that they would sell me the car at MSRP. Their montra was that "Mr. Huffines Policy is to never sell a car over MSRP. Well, about two weeks ago the proved what that policy was worth.
Not only are they not going sell me the car at MSRP, they are not going to sell me the car at all. In a meeting with the GM (John Joast) I was told, "Sorry, but we've decided to tear up the list and we are going to sell our cars on Ebay". When I asked "what happened to our deal, your assertion that Ray Huffines policy was to never sell over MSRP and your assurances that this wouldn't happen," he answered "we've made a business decision and I don't car what Ray Huffines policy is, I run this dealership".
Now, understand I'm not just a guy off the street to these folks. I've bought 2 Vetts from them and 2 Jeeps from their Jeep dealership over the last three years and referred a bunch of customers that bought. As late as March, they were assuring me that the car was mine and my sales guy Scott Grahek (who is a great guy and this had something to do with him and a lot of others leaving the dealership) were making plans for the May order.
A year ago I could have gotten on any number of lists for the car. But these guys were adamant. THE CAR IS YOURS AND AT MSRP. So, to make a long and painful story short, I got screwed and they are going to loose my business and anyone I can influence for a profit on two cars. I hope that they will find that this wasn't a good "business decision".
If you car to voice your amazement please do so at the following contact numbers:
ray.huffines@huffines.net
Ray huffines fax number 972-538-7001 Most effective means of contact.
Thanks guys for your support and think twice before you want to deal with this group of dealerships.
Not only are they not going sell me the car at MSRP, they are not going to sell me the car at all. In a meeting with the GM (John Joast) I was told, "Sorry, but we've decided to tear up the list and we are going to sell our cars on Ebay". When I asked "what happened to our deal, your assertion that Ray Huffines policy was to never sell over MSRP and your assurances that this wouldn't happen," he answered "we've made a business decision and I don't car what Ray Huffines policy is, I run this dealership".
Now, understand I'm not just a guy off the street to these folks. I've bought 2 Vetts from them and 2 Jeeps from their Jeep dealership over the last three years and referred a bunch of customers that bought. As late as March, they were assuring me that the car was mine and my sales guy Scott Grahek (who is a great guy and this had something to do with him and a lot of others leaving the dealership) were making plans for the May order.
A year ago I could have gotten on any number of lists for the car. But these guys were adamant. THE CAR IS YOURS AND AT MSRP. So, to make a long and painful story short, I got screwed and they are going to loose my business and anyone I can influence for a profit on two cars. I hope that they will find that this wasn't a good "business decision".
If you car to voice your amazement please do so at the following contact numbers:
ray.huffines@huffines.net
Ray huffines fax number 972-538-7001 Most effective means of contact.
Thanks guys for your support and think twice before you want to deal with this group of dealerships.
You trusted them.
05-08-2008, 11:21 AM
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05-08-2008, 01:50 PM
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05-08-2008, 02:29 PM
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Unless you have a signed agreement, forget about court.
Next, I happen to be another, previous, Huffunes (Plano) customer.
I not only sent a fax, but visited the dealership last Tuesday.
They are aware of this thread - I made sure to leave the link!
Next, I happen to be another, previous, Huffunes (Plano) customer.
I not only sent a fax, but visited the dealership last Tuesday.
They are aware of this thread - I made sure to leave the link!
05-08-2008, 07:10 PM
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What you are really asking of them is a gift of about $50,000-$75,000. All the cars you ever purchased from them could not match the profit they will UNDOUBTEDLY get for their ZR-1. Can't say that I blame them.
For you other guys expecting a MSRP deal: Take a breath and ask yourself if you really think you are that good a customer, that good a friend, or the dealership has that much money that they can't use an extra $50K. It would be rare indeed for someone to sell anything WAY BELOW market value because they wanted YOU to have it. Not going to happen.
For you other guys expecting a MSRP deal: Take a breath and ask yourself if you really think you are that good a customer, that good a friend, or the dealership has that much money that they can't use an extra $50K. It would be rare indeed for someone to sell anything WAY BELOW market value because they wanted YOU to have it. Not going to happen.
If you were a dealer, wouldn't you sell it for what you could get for it? I sure would.....but....as a customer, you should have gotten a written contract that you could hold them to. Handshakes are worth nothing in business.
05-08-2008, 09:32 PM
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Le Mans Master
Ha, as one of the earlier posters alleged, a contract need not be in writing (so long as it satisfies that state's Statute of Frauds provision); however, consideration (or a consideration substitute) must be present. From the facts we have, whether the above-mentioned deal were in writing or not, a judge would most likely rule that there would be no binding agreement between the parties due to lack of consideration (or a substitute). I could have my law clerk write a more detailed memorandum on the topic, but he just took his Contracts II final exam on Monday night, so I think he's quickly trying to forget the topic.
