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Old 10-17-2010, 10:02 AM
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Im sure alot of people have snapped axles in a Z. However, has anyone snapped one in a bone stock car with over 17K on factory runflats?...unfortunatly I did.

The car is under warranty. Havent taken anything apart yet so there may be more damage but the tire is slashed and the barrell of the wheel is totally destoyed. Will the wheel and tire be covered too?

This happened when I hit 2nd. I have experienced slight wheelhop in second before but this was imediately when I banged second. This has me pretty concerned because I plan on adding another 75HP over the winter and picking up DR's. I dont run my car hard all the time but when I do....I dont baby it.

"This happened on a very sticky road"
Old 10-17-2010, 10:15 AM
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It must just be me but I've never had a wheel hop issue yet...maybe the roads around here aren't as sticky...and now that I've had more work done to the car the tires spin even more freely.

Hopefully they will cover everything for you.
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Originally Posted by D-Rod
Im sure alot of people have snapped axles in a Z. However, has anyone snapped one in a bone stock car with over 17K on factory runflats?...unfortunatly I did.

The car is under warranty. Havent taken anything apart yet so there may be more damage but the tire is slashed and the barrell of the wheel is totally destoyed. Will the wheel and tire be covered too?

This happened when I hit 2nd. I have experienced slight wheelhop in second before but this was imediately when I banged second. This has me pretty concerned because I plan on adding another 75HP over the winter and picking up DR's. I dont run my car hard all the time but when I do....I dont baby it.

"This happened on a very sticky road"
No need for concern!!! Wheel hop can break anything. If you have been wheel hopping and staying in on it then it's your right foot thats the cause of this failure!!!

Drag radials keep you from wheel hopping for the most part so you are better off with them!! I have been running drag radials for a year with 100rwhp more than stock and I haven't had any issues!!

Now I have over 150rwhp than stock with a totally stock drive line... Three launches at the track and numerous runs outside without any failures!!

Therefore, please let off when you have wheel hop and you should be fine for a long time!!!

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Old 10-17-2010, 10:33 AM
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Drag radials will help the wheel hop, but they are hard on the clutch.
Old 10-17-2010, 10:37 AM
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No need for concern!!! Wheel hop can break anything. If you have been wheel hopping and staying in on it then it's your right foot thats the cause of this failure!!!

Drag radials keep you from wheel hopping for the most part so you are better off with them!! I have been running drag radials for a year with 100rwhp more than stock and I haven't had any issues!!

Now I have over 150rwhp than stock with a totally stock drive line... Three launches at the track and numerous runs outside without any failures!!

Therefore, please let off when you have wheel hop and you should be fine for a long time!!!
Yea I think picking up some DR's is a must for me. My last C6 had some extreme wheelhop on street tires at the track to the point I had to let out of it. However, when I experienced wheel hop with the Z it was very light....like one or two hops and then hook and go.

I have only experienced it when I hit 2nd in both of my vettes. Maybe I am rushing my shift or something.

Im still a rookie with alot to learn so maybe I'm doing something wrong but I feel I am a decent driver. On my 8th run ever in any car I ran a 11.77 @121 in a horrible DA (bone stock with 17K miles on my runflats). However, if I am breaking stuff maybe I'm not as "decent" as I thought. When I shift I shift as fast as I possibly can. Maybe I should slow my 1st-2nd?
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Originally Posted by D-Rod
Im sure alot of people have snapped axles in a Z. However, has anyone snapped one in a bone stock car with over 17K on factory runflats?...unfortunatly I did.

The car is under warranty. Havent taken anything apart yet so there may be more damage but the tire is slashed and the barrell of the wheel is totally destoyed. Will the wheel and tire be covered too?

This happened when I hit 2nd. I have experienced slight wheelhop in second before but this was imediately when I banged second. This has me pretty concerned because I plan on adding another 75HP over the winter and picking up DR's. I dont run my car hard all the time but when I do....I dont baby it.

"This happened on a very sticky road"
What year is your car ? While wheel hop will destroy any axle, starting in 2009 all Z06's got the strengthened axles that are also installed on the ZR1.
If/when you experience wheel hop, get out of the throttle immediatly
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What year is your car ? While wheel hop will destroy any axle, starting in 2009 all Z06's got the strengthened axles that are also installed on the ZR1.
If/when you experience wheel hop, get out of the throttle immediatly
Its an '06. Its not like a wheel hop that goes on and on for a while where you can react fast and get out of it. Its literally like 2 hops that you cant even see on the video. Snap your fingers as fast as you can twice and thats all it is. I guess it was enough to do it though.
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Ive seen people bounce down the track for like like 40ft while wheel hopping and I'm always cringing thinking "GET OUT OF IT". I promise I never did anything like that. If I did that I wouldnt even have posted on here. I was just really suprised that the slight wheel hop could break a Z06 axle. Ill post a video later so you can see....you cant even tell I am wheel hoping.

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Originally Posted by D-Rod
Ive seen people bounce down the track for like like 40ft while wheel hopping and I'm always cringing thinking "GET OUT OF IT". I promise I never did anything like that. If I did that I wouldnt even have posted on here. I was just really suprised that the slight wheel hop could break a Z06 axle. Ill post a video later so you cant see....you cant even tell I am wheel hoping.
Mine's an 06 as well. I think I heard that early build 06's were even more prone to broken axles when experiencing wheel hop.
Upgrade to the newer 09+ axles and you'll be OK, but no axle is impervious to the dreaded wheel hop syndrome.

I can also tell you that swapping out my factory rear shocks for the DRM spec Bilsteins helped a lot with wheel hop at the track
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Originally Posted by FNBADAZ06
Mine's an 06 as well. I think I heard that early build 06's were even more prone to broken axles when experiencing wheel hop.
Upgrade to the newer 09+ axles and you'll be OK, but no axle is impervious to the dreaded wheel hop syndrome.

I can also tell you that swapping out my factory rear shocks for the DRM spec Bilsteins helped a lot with wheel hop at the track

Thanks, hopefully I can talk the dealership to puting '09+ axles on if they wouldnt already.
Old 10-17-2010, 11:57 AM
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^^^ Dealer will replace only broken parts, not ones that might break. GM procedure call for using the most current part that is specified VIN by VIN.

Regarding wheel hop, use the search
C6Z06 board
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subject only

Then set aside an hour to read some great threads, ignoring advice to start modding the car and focusing instead on the driver techniques described.

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Originally Posted by Ranger
^^^ Dealer will replace only broken parts, not ones that might break. GM procedure call for using the most current part that is specified VIN by VIN.

Regarding wheel hop, use the search
C6Z06 board
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subject only

Then set aside an hour to read some great threads, ignoring advice to start modding the car and focusing instead on the driver techniques described.

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Thanks I was just reading a thread you posted from a long time ago.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-z...nd-issues.html
I am somewhat glad to see this was a potential issue with some '06's because it just didnt seem like the little wheel hop I have had would have snapped it unless weak. I have seen other Z06's wheel hop VIOLENTLY with no issues.

My buddy ownes the dealership I am taking it too. If they will replace the right side with a '09+ I will gladly pay to have the left side upgraded even though it doesnt look like they have had issues like the right side.
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Originally Posted by Ranger
^^^ Dealer will replace only broken parts, not ones that might break. GM procedure call for using the most current part that is specified VIN by VIN.

Regarding wheel hop, use the search
C6Z06 board
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subject only

Then set aside an hour to read some great threads, ignoring advice to start modding the car and focusing instead on the driver techniques described.

Ranger
Oh yea....thanks for the launch tip writeup. I followed your tips as best as I could and had another Z06 owner asking about my techniques yesterday after seeing my times.

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Originally Posted by D-Rod
Its an '06. Its not like a wheel hop that goes on and on for a while where you can react fast and get out of it. Its literally like 2 hops that you cant even see on the video. Snap your fingers as fast as you can twice and thats all it is. I guess it was enough to do it though.
WOW, that sucks sorry to hear about it and surprised it happened on the 1/2 shift I guess vs. your launch. When racing and driving these cars to their max limit anything can happen and I also shift on the 1/2 shift very fast when going ***** out! I was considering going to the track today on my new VERY sticky Bridgestone runflats that hook my car great; but now I have SERIOUS second thoughts after seeing your post as I just don't feel like breaking anything right now!

That being said it could of been MUCH WORSE, and your lucky your car did not take a hard right or left into the wall, after snapping an axle after an aggressive 1/2 shift and your car roaring down the track (so you lucked out on in that respect)!

Best of luck on getting fixed up asap, I certainly would upgrade to the 09Z06/ZR1 axles, and certainly stay away from the weaker 06 C6 Z axles! Oh yeah, congrats on some IMPRESSIVE ets with worn out runflats to boot (great driving).

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Axles were the weak link in 06 so GM strengthened them for 07's and 08's.

09's were given the ZR1 axles which gave them even more beef.

I would think that GM would cover any damage that resulted from the failure such as the damage to the wheel and tire.

Keep us posted on the result.
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Another option than technique and DR's are Coilovers. I have experienced wheel hop at times but adjusting the coilovers are a very easy way of tuning out the wheel hop beside the other benefits such as improved handling.

I would follow Rangers advice and if you have the extra cash, buy some Pfadts, LG, or Bilstiens.
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Sorry to hear this happen David. Glad that you are OK. The car can be fixed. Keep us posted on how the dealer handles the situation.

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Would Pfadt solid motor/trans mounts minimize hop?
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Thanks all for the advice. I will let you know what the dealership says when I drop the car off tomorrow. I wanna be there when they pull the tire off to see what all is damaged.
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Would Pfadt solid motor/trans mounts minimize hop?
Definitely not if running run-craps. Easiest fix for hop is a better tire. Second easiest is decent suspension.


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