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Old 03-26-2016, 12:03 PM
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What is a good price to have someone check my heads on my just purchased 08Z? Would any GM dealership know about this or only like performance shops?
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Mostly "LS" specialty performance shops. GM has rendered the wiggle test invalid so most of the few dealerships that did it don't do it anymore. I know of only 1 or 2 nationwide that still do it and none of those are near you. You'll just have to call around unless another member here knows of a shop near you.

Shops should charge $200 to $500.

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If you are concerned about the heads, dont waste your money getting them checked, just pull them and have them fixed. I went through the same thing when I bought my 07 in January. Talked to 3 local shops who said 200-300 to check them and that was only checking 1 side. I decided instead of spending money to have them checked I was just going to put that money towards having them fixed.
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You may be able to find a local forum member near you to assist with the DIY check. Might just cost you pizza and beer...never know.
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Originally Posted by bjmsam
An early draft of Hib's procedure was followed to check my valve to guide clearances last summer at 62k miles and the bill totaled just over $500 (all were checked since none were found to be out of spec).
crowdsourced interactive map of "wiggle testers" for LS7 engine valve to guide clearances

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Late last year I was contacted by the guy at GM that is responsible for all head manufacturing (I wish I could remember his name ... I'm gonna call him Bill). Four years ago we on the forum figured out that about 1/2 of the LS7s had a geometry problem. Bill verified that from 2006 to 2009 GM used two different companies for final machining of LS7 heads. He knew about my tool and asked me to ship it to him, which I did.

Root cause ... still most likely not pedestal machining, but rather valve guide angle. In either case the result is that the rocker pallet "rolls" off of the edge of the valve stem. This results in high side forces in the guides.
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My heads are presumably from the good batch considering all valve-to-guide clearances measured within service limits at 62k miles, so when it comes time to have them refreshed (at 100k?), I certainly won't trade them for random cores...
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Good plan.

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Originally Posted by rjacobs
If you are concerned about the heads, dont waste your money getting them checked, just pull them and have them fixed. I went through the same thing when I bought my 07 in January. Talked to 3 local shops who said 200-300 to check them and that was only checking 1 side. I decided instead of spending money to have them checked I was just going to put that money towards having them fixed.
Couldn't agree more. "Checking" them is a waste. They need to get fixed regardless.
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Vengeance Racing is just outside Atlanta (215 miles). Give them a call if you can't find anyone closer. They did my car 3 years ago.
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Originally Posted by rjacobs
If you are concerned about the heads, dont waste your money getting them checked, just pull them and have them fixed. I went through the same thing when I bought my 07 in January. Talked to 3 local shops who said 200-300 to check them and that was only checking 1 side. I decided instead of spending money to have them checked I was just going to put that money towards having them fixed.
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Couldn't agree more. "Checking" them is a waste. They need to get fixed regardless.
This. Just put the money towards getting the heads fixed.
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Originally Posted by Frans96ss
"Checking" them is a waste. They need to get fixed regardless.
How do you know that either or both of his heads are from the bad batch without "checking?"
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Originally Posted by rjacobs
If you are concerned about the heads, dont waste your money getting them checked, just pull them and have them fixed. I went through the same thing when I bought my 07 in January. Talked to 3 local shops who said 200-300 to check them and that was only checking 1 side. I decided instead of spending money to have them checked I was just going to put that money towards having them fixed.
You asked and now you have the overwhelming answer...
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Originally Posted by bjmsam
How do you know that either or both of his heads are from the bad batch without "checking?"
because there is no such thing as a "bad batch" every single ls7 ever made has the same problem. Period.
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Originally Posted by Frans96ss
because there is no such thing as a "bad batch" every single ls7 ever made has the same problem. Period.
Ah, thanks for clarifying. That sure is discouraging! I described my heads above (and referenced evidence of two distinct batches); what do you suppose needs to be "fixed," why, and how? In case it's relevant, here is my oil analysis:


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Hmmm... at 88K miles E-V-E-R-Y single valve guide on my 07 Z was within GM's specs. This was 100% heads off verified by WCCH. They ALL are not bad.

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When they "fix" them is it true they aren't really fix for good? Guess I'm trying to justify paying to get them checked if it's not a ton more to just "fix" them.
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Originally Posted by scottc5z
When they "fix" them is it true they aren't really fix for good? Guess I'm trying to justify paying to get them checked if it's not a ton more to just "fix" them.
Not true...as long as "they" know what they're doing.
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I've checked them both on and off the car. I even have two brand new sets in my garage right now. If I didn't just have back surgery, I would tell you to come up to Clarksville and I would help you out. If you don't get them checked in the next month or so maybe I can help then.

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