06 Z06 timing drops to 6 degrees after a fast shifts help
#21
UPDATE!
It is officially TORQUE MANAGEMENT taking out the timing.
It shows up under "TORQUE MANAGEMENT ADVANCE" it'll remove 12-16degrees of timing after each shift and wont return till top of that gear and happen again in the next.
From everything I can see i have the torque limits to 6042 and nothing that shows in the tune that torque management is even able to come into play.
It leaves me with.... WHAT enables torque management? What parameters is it using to determine taking away timing? Is there something like speed sensors, remove a fuse anything so it cant access a parameter to take it away?????
It is officially TORQUE MANAGEMENT taking out the timing.
It shows up under "TORQUE MANAGEMENT ADVANCE" it'll remove 12-16degrees of timing after each shift and wont return till top of that gear and happen again in the next.
From everything I can see i have the torque limits to 6042 and nothing that shows in the tune that torque management is even able to come into play.
It leaves me with.... WHAT enables torque management? What parameters is it using to determine taking away timing? Is there something like speed sensors, remove a fuse anything so it cant access a parameter to take it away?????
Just do everyone a favor and part that lemon out already.
#22
Team Owner
#23
Well at least you figured out what is pulling spark. That's a start. How'd you see it? What did you log?
This is how I have my car set up. See if you have any differences. All forward gears are maxed out like the ones shown.
This is how I have my car set up. See if you have any differences. All forward gears are maxed out like the ones shown.
#25
You don't need to. Just compare your tables to mine.
But for future reference..... hit the print screen button. Open MS Word. Paste. Hit the image to highlight it is Word. Right click, save to desktop. Done......
But for future reference..... hit the print screen button. Open MS Word. Paste. Hit the image to highlight it is Word. Right click, save to desktop. Done......
#26
Welcome to the 21st century, Farty !!!!
You drove GT-R's for way too long that did everything for you
#27
My Car did the same thing. only when it hooked hard on the 1st to 2nd shift till about the top of 2nd power comes back
If the car spins it won't do it, took it to more than a few tuners and it wouldn't never hook hard on the street to trigger it.
This issue would only do this to me at the track. When I pulled the heads to have guides replaced the car stopped doing it. Never did find the cause..... pm sent BTW
If the car spins it won't do it, took it to more than a few tuners and it wouldn't never hook hard on the street to trigger it.
This issue would only do this to me at the track. When I pulled the heads to have guides replaced the car stopped doing it. Never did find the cause..... pm sent BTW
Last edited by 2fastz06; 10-31-2017 at 10:32 AM.
#28
Le Mans Master
#29
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I absolutely did try that right away bud. No change
I just found that "SUPERCHARGER" torque management was enabled on the car in the tune. So i'm going back out tomorrow to try again. I've compared the tune in this car to about 10 other cars/tunes that do not have the issue and tried almost everything. Its crazy!!! I took the car out tonight and it just spins to much for it to show up
I added the extra tables of torque management to hopefully narrow down where or whats causing it. Sucks its so hard to duplicate it to know if its gone or not. Need a lot of traction and very fast shifts
I just found that "SUPERCHARGER" torque management was enabled on the car in the tune. So i'm going back out tomorrow to try again. I've compared the tune in this car to about 10 other cars/tunes that do not have the issue and tried almost everything. Its crazy!!! I took the car out tonight and it just spins to much for it to show up
I added the extra tables of torque management to hopefully narrow down where or whats causing it. Sucks its so hard to duplicate it to know if its gone or not. Need a lot of traction and very fast shifts
#30
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Welcome to the 21st century, Farty !!!!
You drove GT-R's for way too long that did everything for you
Welcome to the 21st century, Farty !!!!
You drove GT-R's for way too long that did everything for you
Ok well that works smarty pants!!!!!! You can see in the log its removing from 16-13 deg of timing then just bounces back!
#32
I absolutely did try that right away bud. No change
I just found that "SUPERCHARGER" torque management was enabled on the car in the tune. So i'm going back out tomorrow to try again. I've compared the tune in this car to about 10 other cars/tunes that do not have the issue and tried almost everything. Its crazy!!! I took the car out tonight and it just spins to much for it to show up
I added the extra tables of torque management to hopefully narrow down where or whats causing it. Sucks its so hard to duplicate it to know if its gone or not. Need a lot of traction and very fast shifts
I just found that "SUPERCHARGER" torque management was enabled on the car in the tune. So i'm going back out tomorrow to try again. I've compared the tune in this car to about 10 other cars/tunes that do not have the issue and tried almost everything. Its crazy!!! I took the car out tonight and it just spins to much for it to show up
I added the extra tables of torque management to hopefully narrow down where or whats causing it. Sucks its so hard to duplicate it to know if its gone or not. Need a lot of traction and very fast shifts
Jeremy Formato tried to fix mine but logging on the street it would spin first gear to bad to trigger it. But I'm sure its spinning some on the shift maybe enough so its not triggering it. I'll get a shot of my tune to send you
Very hard to get it to ever do on the street was a track thing.
Also mine an my buddy were both 06 z's and I'm not sure mine still doen't do it as I have not been to the 1/4 mile in over a year.
But have got it to hook on the street a few times with the hoosier 335-35-18 and has not done it.
But I'm sure its spinning some on the 1st two 2nd shift on the street maybe just enough not to trigger it.
Last edited by 2fastz06; 10-31-2017 at 10:41 PM.
#33
Le Mans Master
Thread Starter
Ok I went back out today, Oil starve disabled, supercharger torque mngmt disabled, spark tcs disabled. The car still managed to pull 15-13 deg's of timing for a LONNNNG time in 2nd and a blip in 3rd till i let out. I go into ETC torque limiting and the table is set to "0's" for the amount of timing it can pull. What else can i log to help find this? I'm about to burn the car to the ground!!!!!!!!!!
#34
Instructor
My car is similar. Makes 610 530tq. I attached my tune for another one for you to review. My car hooks with DR's and no timing pulled.
Ok I went back out today, Oil starve disabled, supercharger torque mngmt disabled, spark tcs disabled. The car still managed to pull 15-13 deg's of timing for a LONNNNG time in 2nd and a blip in 3rd till i let out. I go into ETC torque limiting and the table is set to "0's" for the amount of timing it can pull. What else can i log to help find this? I'm about to burn the car to the ground!!!!!!!!!!
#36
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#40
Took mine to 4 diff tuners before i said hell with it last month an sold the car. looking for another now....
The problem I had was it wouldn't do it on the street would spin first...and at the track it would hook an do it on each fast shift.....
I believe more cars do this than people know...I would have never known it I didn't like the 1/4 mile
The problem I had was it wouldn't do it on the street would spin first...and at the track it would hook an do it on each fast shift.....
I believe more cars do this than people know...I would have never known it I didn't like the 1/4 mile