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Has anyone built a 500ci LSX N/A street ZO6

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Old 02-17-2018, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Millenium Z06
I'd agree with that but how many people are going to go with an ITB system
If you are making 650+ n/a and want good driveability and not choke off your motor it should be considered.
It's just as rare a those ~700whp n/ setups are.
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With a huge solid roller camshaft and mozez heads, holley hi ram 105mm and high compression you should be pushing 750 to the wheels easy
Old 02-19-2018, 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Ssalsaleh
With a huge solid roller camshaft and mozez heads, holley hi ram 105mm and high compression you should be pushing 750 to the wheels easy
That's a lot of power NA. Mozez heads will go a long way towards that goal, although a Hi Ram will not fit the Mozez heads, but the Mast Mozez tunnel ram intake will.
Old 02-20-2018, 11:46 AM
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And saying it will be "easy" is a stretch.

Might as well say putting a 600+ci all billet hemi in it, that will make 800+rwhp N/A is easy. Just a little fab work to fit it in.
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Originally Posted by Unreal
And saying it will be "easy" is a stretch.

Might as well say putting a 600+ci all billet hemi in it, that will make 800+rwhp N/A is easy. Just a little fab work to fit it in.
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I was watching one of car builder TV shows a couple weeks ago. Not really paying attention either..... I don't even recall which one... Anyway, they dropped an LS3 into 60's model hot rod (again, don't recall what). The one thing I did pay attention to, was that they fit a new ITB set up to this engine. It was designed for cars that do not have vertical space under the hood, which was why they were using this intake/ITB set up for this particular car. And, they also wanted a 'retro' look. The ITB's were not vertical, but horizontal. They looked similar to the OBX set up, but that was not the manufacturer. The manufacturer was one of the big names, like Edelbrock, Holley, or Borla.... I've tried to find info on this using the all-powerful Google, but didn't have much success.
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Edelbrock has the LS3 cross-ram setup (I believe) you speak of, but it wont fit under the hood of a vette. No LS7 applications either. It's purdy though...



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No, not that thing. "Individual" throttle body set-up. Meaning - eight of them, not two. Teach me for depending on my failing short term memory.
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Originally Posted by Michael_D
No, not that thing. "Individual" throttle body set-up. Meaning - eight of them, not two. Teach me for depending on my failing short term memory.
Gotcha...haven't seen that from one of the big names yet. I might try to dig that up if I can. Did it look like it could fit under a vette hood?

This guy has the most promising setup I've seen for our cars (Harrop): https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...post1596440513

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It appears Jenvey has ITBs with vertical options

http://www.compsystems.com.au/index....whole-ls-range

edit: Oh sorry, just saw you said NOT vertical. If not Jenvey, probably Harrop?

I am wondering how much extra money is required to be invested on top of the $1400-1500 you can get the OBX system from to get it running worthwhile, enough that you might as well go with Harrop?

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It pisses me off I can't remember more details. The reason it stuck in my head, was that it did look like it would fit under our hood. It was not Harrop, or OBX, but a very simular design. Even had horns for that retro look. Big name brand, and I thought it would be a real quick product search, but I did not find it. Oh well, it will most likely be announced and marketed pretty soon. The ITB set up would definitely support a big cube stroker though.....

For an ITB set up to function properly, I don't know where you'd look to for programming. Halltech maybe?
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Originally Posted by MikeOC
It appears Jenvey has ITBs with vertical options

http://www.compsystems.com.au/index....whole-ls-range

edit: Oh sorry, just saw you said NOT vertical. If not Jenvey, probably Harrop?

I am wondering how much extra money is required to be invested on top of the $1400-1500 you can get the OBX system from to get it running worthwhile, enough that you might as well go with Harrop?
The vertical setup is actually pretty intriguing.. Doesn't look like anymore cutting than a high ram would need to fit.
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Originally Posted by Michael_D
It pisses me off I can't remember more details. The reason it stuck in my head, was that it did look like it would fit under our hood. It was not Harrop, or OBX, but a very simular design. Even had horns for that retro look. Big name brand, and I thought it would be a real quick product search, but I did not find it. Oh well, it will most likely be announced and marketed pretty soon. The ITB set up would definitely support a big cube stroker though.....

For an ITB set up to function properly, I don't know where you'd look to for programming. Halltech maybe?
Maybe it was a Borla Michael...they have a Ford 351W cross ram ITB. I cant seem to find anything for the LS3 in that design by them though.



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Originally Posted by jayyyw
The vertical setup is actually pretty intriguing.. Doesn't look like anymore cutting than a high ram would need to fit.
I wonder if the vertical stack could easily be adapted by an enclosed box (transparent would be nice!) in the rough dimensions of a plastic manifold that could be cheaply 3d printed an hooked up to an existing CAI to keep costs down.
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Originally Posted by MikeOC


I wonder if the vertical stack could easily be adapted by an enclosed box (transparent would be nice!) in the rough dimensions of a plastic manifold that could be cheaply 3d printed an hooked up to an existing CAI to keep costs down.
Anything is possible with the right amount of $$$$$$$$$$
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Originally Posted by jayyyw
Anything is possible with the right amount of $$$$$$$$$$
hmm upon thinking about it, I bet the runners would be too short for the street and in that case, for a race application it wouldn't be quiet right either.

The Harrop is probably the "cheapest" way to go for the street.
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Originally Posted by MikeOC
hmm upon thinking about it, I bet the runners would be too short for the street and in that case, for a race application it wouldn't be quiet right either.

The Harrop is probably the "cheapest" way to go for the street.
Trumpet length is critical also.

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Old 02-20-2018, 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by GARY2004Z06
Trumpet length is critical also.
Gary or robz, from what I've read the peak tq is increased in the mid range and power carries further in the rpm band, but no one mentions the low range. How would ITBs act in the low range with a street cam?
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Any 500ci engine just needs one of these sat on top of it. The perfect intake for one!

https://www.harrop.com.au/shop/autom...e-vf-commodore
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Originally Posted by Michael_D
It pisses me off I can't remember more details. The reason it stuck in my head, was that it did look like it would fit under our hood. It was not Harrop, or OBX, but a very simular design. Even had horns for that retro look. Big name brand, and I thought it would be a real quick product search, but I did not find it. Oh well, it will most likely be announced and marketed pretty soon. The ITB set up would definitely support a big cube stroker though.....

For an ITB set up to function properly, I don't know where you'd look to for programming. Halltech maybe?
Was it this one Michael?

https://speedmaster79.com/chevy-gm-l...omplete-satin/

edit, another:
https://kinsler.com/Shop/product/kinsler-ls-cross-ram/

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