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Old 03-05-2018, 08:28 PM
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So these guys are jumping into the market with both feet. Unsure if they're a vendor, so I'll refrain from link posting to their site. It looks nice and they're getting high end billet heads into production. It maybe too early to ask...but does ANYONE have a set (any set) of these heads yet? Has anyone flow benched them? Have specs of any kind on them? I'm an analytical dude, so I need data before I EVER commit to a purchase. Come on FED...get some numbers out there. I did a search on the board and couldn't find anything of note. Does anyone know anything?
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Originally Posted by Pb82 Ronin
So these guys are jumping into the market with both feet. Unsure if they're a vendor, so I'll refrain from link posting to their site. It looks nice and they're getting high end billet heads into production. It maybe too early to ask...but does ANYONE have a set (any set) of these heads yet? Has anyone flow benched them? Have specs of any kind on them? I'm an analytical dude, so I need data before I EVER commit to a purchase. Come on FED...get some numbers out there. I did a search on the board and couldn't find anything of note. Does anyone know anything?
I had to ask on Facebook. A ton of guys are making 600+ with them and one guy with their heads and cam did 168 in the half-mile. I do not think he had an MSD, not sure. I like them and may go with them. I think they flow 400ish and on Facebook people say flow numbers will be different for every flow machine.
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True...but man, post SOMETHING for us guys that use engine modeling software...
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True...but man, post SOMETHING for us guys that use engine modeling software...
Haha, I understand. There are a ton of Head companies now and you have to let people know what you have.
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Keep searching. I wouldnt touch them.
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Keep searching. I wouldnt touch them.
Curious, can you share why?
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FED posted some flow numbers that I plotted on my heat chart. If the numbers are accurate, they are an exceptional flowing head (based on my own heat chart). BUT! Their flow numbers for factory heads are off, so I'm curious about the flow bench and test criteria used. The same could be said for all head manufacturers though. They all have their own flow benches which can present in the same way as different dyno's. So, in this case, I take their numbers at face value...which are formidable.
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Their LS7 heads work very well, just about as good as any modded LS7 head I have run across the dyno. They make power similar to my hand ported lS7s on my car and I went 170.6 in the half mile.
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Their LS7 heads work very well, just about as good as any modded LS7 head I have run across the dyno. They make power similar to my hand ported lS7s on my car and I went 170.6 in the half mile.
170 in the half? What else was done?
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I have a set of their heads on my car. Don't know much about them. Quality Motorsports in Lewisville, Tx did my build and used their heads. No polishing or porting was done. My car makes 524.7 rwhp with a small cam and headers. No problems since the build over 3 yrs ago.
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I have a set of their RHS based heads. I like the power they made. 570whp STD

Stock TB
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Small 230/240 115LSA +4 cam on EPS lobes
Kooks 1-7/8's with catted X
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I personally have had their LS7 head fix done on my car and all I can say is I hurt a lot of feelings with that car. I have talked to Chris and he is a stand up dude. Now on the billet heads, I an curious too
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Chris is far from a stand up dude and their "work" has been proven time and time again to be sub-par and their flow numbers are grossly over inflated. Do a search on CF, LS1Tech, Yellow Bullet, etc.

I guarantee anyone running their heads would pick up power with a competitors product. I've personally had them on a flow bench and posted the numbers on here. I've seen people pull them off, swap to heads, re-dyno and pickup horsepower and torque everywhere. Same cars picked up 2-3 MPH in the 1/8th. I've seen these with the LS7, LS3, and cathedral ports.


No offense to anyone who was duped into buying his products, but they are trash and Chris is a giant douche as well.
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Chris is far from a stand up dude and their "work" has been proven time and time again to be sub-par and their flow numbers are grossly over inflated. Do a search on CF, LS1Tech, Yellow Bullet, etc.

I guarantee anyone running their heads would pick up power with a competitors product. I've personally had them on a flow bench and posted the numbers on here. I've seen people pull them off, swap to heads, re-dyno and pickup horsepower and torque everywhere. Same cars picked up 2-3 MPH in the 1/8th. I've seen these with the LS7, LS3, and cathedral ports.


No offense to anyone who was duped into buying his products, but they are trash and Chris is a giant douche as well.

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Interesting

Any feedback on Tony at XtremeCFM ? I am about to jump into a set of his worked TFS LS3 heads. Seems a stand up guy. Frankenstein was on my short list as well.
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Originally Posted by v8sten
I personally have had their LS7 head fix done on my car and all I can say is I hurt a lot of feelings with that car. I have talked to Chris and he is a stand up dude. Now on the billet heads, I an curious too
I have read about Frankenstein heads through some posts by you and they have sparked my interest. Too many people talk bad about them though and say they are bad compared to others. Everyone I have seen with the heads makes right on par with other setups, maybe a little more. What rwhp did yours put down? I am talking to them about their BR7 CNC'd heads.

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Chris is far from a stand up dude and their "work" has been proven time and time again to be sub-par and their flow numbers are grossly over inflated. Do a search on CF, LS1Tech, Yellow Bullet, etc.

I guarantee anyone running their heads would pick up power with a competitors product. I've personally had them on a flow bench and posted the numbers on here. I've seen people pull them off, swap to heads, re-dyno and pickup horsepower and torque everywhere. Same cars picked up 2-3 MPH in the 1/8th. I've seen these with the LS7, LS3, and cathedral ports.


No offense to anyone who was duped into buying his products, but they are trash and Chris is a giant douche as well.
Is this for their stock casting LS7 heads? I am looking into their Brodix BR7 CNC'd heads and with a 434ci motor they made 649rwhp with a ported MSD and non-milled heads. Unfortunaltely I do not know the cam, the car is a road race car, hence probably not a huge cam.

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I have read about Frankenstein heads through some posts by you and they have sparked my interest. Too many people talk bad about them though and say they are bad compared to others. Everyone I have seen with the heads makes right on par with other setups, maybe a little more. What rwhp did yours put down? I am talking to them about their BR7 CNC'd heads.


Mine put down 595 through the stock mufflers and a hair over 600 with my 3" modded mufflers. Id have to find the dyno charts. That is with the stock intake, injectors and throttle body. then I checked the valves again after 30k miles and they were good to go.

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Mine put down 595 through the stock mufflers and a hair over 600 with my 3" modded mufflers. Id have to find the dyno charts. That is with the stock intake, injectors and throttle body. then I checked the valves again after 30k miles and they were good to go.
That is what I like to hear, I see people on FB bashing them and most of their cars I have seen results from make 600ish on stock intake. I keep thinking about going Frankenstein BR7's, 649 rwhp unmilled with a ported MSD. I do not know if the extra cost is worth it. They are $3,300 and if I could sell my stock heads for $1k I would be happy to be in $2,300 for monster heads. Either way I like what I am seeing.
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That is what I like to hear, I see people on FB bashing them and most of their cars I have seen results from make 600ish on stock intake. I keep thinking about going Frankenstein BR7's, 649 rwhp unmilled with a ported MSD. I do not know if the extra cost is worth it. They are $3,300 and if I could sell my stock heads for $1k I would be happy to be in $2,300 for monster heads. Either way I like what I am seeing.
Their ported BR273s with nitrous exhaust ports moved less air than PRC 265s on the intake and exhaust side and we’re on par with WCCH ported stock castings. I’ve posted the flow numbers on here several times. They are not monster heads by any stretch.

All-Pro, Mozez, and the new CID LS7 heads are the top tier heads by a large margin. Keep in mind the bore size and expected lift of the cam you’re running. The .650 and above flow numbers won’t ever come into play for 99% of the setups on here.



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