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[Z06] mileage before LS7 engine failure stock
#21
Le Mans Master
I have 41K miles - original owner - all stock. Had ticking noise needed lifters replaced under GMPP. Intakes and cam ok and in spec.
#22
It would be interesting to see how many miles people have on their C6Z in general. On the surface, this poll is showing 85% of the problems happen before 50K miles... But, I also tend to wonder what % of people that have C6Z's have over 50K on their cars. A similar poll asking how many miles on your C6Z might bring more light to the relevance to this poll.
#23
Drifting
I have the heads replaced for bad values twice in less than 50K. Went to AHP heads so we'll see. Should count as two votes but I can only vote once
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It would be interesting to see how many miles people have on their C6Z in general. On the surface, this poll is showing 85% of the problems happen before 50K miles... But, I also tend to wonder what % of people that have C6Z's have over 50K on their cars. A similar poll asking how many miles on your C6Z might bring more light to the relevance to this poll.
This includes wiped cam lobe, failed lifter, bent rod, spun bearing, valve that actually dropped, etc.
This does not include valve to guide clearances measuring beyond service limits (post that info in The "Out of Spec" Guide Wear Registry thread).
This does not include valve to guide clearances measuring beyond service limits (post that info in The "Out of Spec" Guide Wear Registry thread).
Last edited by bjmsam; 02-21-2019 at 05:35 PM.
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A similar case could be made for valve-to-guide clearances measuring beyond service limits, but as that already is covered in a different thread, this thread covers valves that actually failed.
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How about a poll of all LS7 owners that have NOT had an major engine failure
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#29
Le Mans Master
You may be interested to know that a local guy to me with a BTR cam only 2007 z06 went all the way to 223k miles before going down for a broken wrist pin. He bought the car all stock as a one owner with 219k miles. Lots of highway miles driven daily by a commuting lawyer original owner.
It would be interesting to see how many miles people have on their C6Z in general. On the surface, this poll is showing 85% of the problems happen before 50K miles... But, I also tend to wonder what % of people that have C6Z's have over 50K on their cars. A similar poll asking how many miles on your C6Z might bring more light to the relevance to this poll.
#30
Burning Brakes
13,000 miles valve guides out of spec. Heads replaced by GM.
28,600 miles valve guides on replacement GM heads out of stock. Replaced with AHP Stage IV with Moldstar 90 valve guides, PSI valve springs, Ferrea exhaust valves.
28.600 miles multiple cam lobes failed on Comp Cam. Valve lifter completely failed. Replaced with AHP116 cam, GM lifters, GM oil pump, oil lines, cleaned everything else.
28,600 miles valve guides on replacement GM heads out of stock. Replaced with AHP Stage IV with Moldstar 90 valve guides, PSI valve springs, Ferrea exhaust valves.
28.600 miles multiple cam lobes failed on Comp Cam. Valve lifter completely failed. Replaced with AHP116 cam, GM lifters, GM oil pump, oil lines, cleaned everything else.
#32
After viewing many different mileage heads in person, these are my beliefs:
1) All exhaust valve guides were out of spec within the first 5k miles.
2) Some TI intake valves slowly wear on the stem.
3) How long exhaust valves last with the beating they take from worn guides is a crap-shoot. 15k, 25k, 35k, 90k, 150k infinity - not all stock hollow stem valves have uniform wall thickness.
4) if you get lucky on number 3 you could still be unlucky on number 2
5) if you get lucky on 2 and 3, you could still spin a bearing.
6) Some people have all the luck and a car built on Wednesday.
1) All exhaust valve guides were out of spec within the first 5k miles.
2) Some TI intake valves slowly wear on the stem.
3) How long exhaust valves last with the beating they take from worn guides is a crap-shoot. 15k, 25k, 35k, 90k, 150k infinity - not all stock hollow stem valves have uniform wall thickness.
4) if you get lucky on number 3 you could still be unlucky on number 2
5) if you get lucky on 2 and 3, you could still spin a bearing.
6) Some people have all the luck and a car built on Wednesday.
Last edited by Spacewalker; 07-15-2019 at 10:27 AM.
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I just traded in my stock 2006 Z with 18,800 trouble free miles on it. I never had the heads checked but I never heard any ticking from the motor. I got to the point where if i kept it I was going to have the heads checked/upgraded due to the known exhaust valve issues on the LS7. If the motor lives at 5k + RPM’s, then your chance for valve failure goes up at a lower mileage point. The cars that are highway driven and live at 1800 RPM go pretty deep mileage wise before you hear valve failures in them. Either way, the valve issue is certainly real and a costly one if the valve breaks. I guess I was lucky with mine.
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#34
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HI Rocket Riders !!!!
I have a 2013 LS7 bone stock with 32000 Miles . I recently sent an Oil sample to Blackstone and their reply was " engine seems to be wearing well" along with a long list of metals etc they tested for . They compared my numbers to an average of results on similar motors they have done and everything seems in line.
Has anyone that suffered an engine failure received a Blackstone report that indicated high level of metals pointing to potential problems ? . If so what metals and at what level ?
Thanks to the vast knowledge represented on this Forum.
I have a 2013 LS7 bone stock with 32000 Miles . I recently sent an Oil sample to Blackstone and their reply was " engine seems to be wearing well" along with a long list of metals etc they tested for . They compared my numbers to an average of results on similar motors they have done and everything seems in line.
Has anyone that suffered an engine failure received a Blackstone report that indicated high level of metals pointing to potential problems ? . If so what metals and at what level ?
Thanks to the vast knowledge represented on this Forum.
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#35
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I just used Blackstone this past May but didn’t get a negative report back; my sample was sent in at 38k miles. The oil only had about 400 miles on it. After the test, I drove My 2008 Z06 across country in June and averaged 30 MPG with a loaded trunk and the A/C on. I just mailed another sample in yesterday. I’ll let you know what comes back.
#36
No issues (fingers crossed)
Last edited by Kurt Semon; 07-28-2019 at 09:28 AM.
#37
The reason I ask is because I see a 2009 Z06 with 68,000 miles, and wondering if it will fail or has it passed the danger zone of 30-40k miles as the Poll suggests.
https://www.corvettewarehouse.com/20...-75220/6945602
#38
Melting Slicks
Not only that, how many miles do they have and HAVE NOT had ANY Internal engine problems.
The reason I ask is because I see a 2009 Z06 with 68,000 miles, and wondering if it will fail or has it passed the danger zone of 30-40k miles as the Poll suggests.
https://www.corvettewarehouse.com/20...-75220/6945602
The reason I ask is because I see a 2009 Z06 with 68,000 miles, and wondering if it will fail or has it passed the danger zone of 30-40k miles as the Poll suggests.
https://www.corvettewarehouse.com/20...-75220/6945602
#39
True. But I already know that all GM motors expire by 100k miles. Beyond that, you're going to have too many problems with the entire car , not just the engine.
so ya, all those parts are wearing out by 100k, doesn't matter if it is an LS7 or the atypical chevy small block.
But what I want to know is will it last to 100k without modifying the damn thing. And this poll only identifies how many people on this website that has had problems. It doesn't include those who had no problems. So I can't get a Percentage of failure.
so IMO, the poll is nearly worthless, except for showing most have failed 30-40k miles
so ya, all those parts are wearing out by 100k, doesn't matter if it is an LS7 or the atypical chevy small block.
But what I want to know is will it last to 100k without modifying the damn thing. And this poll only identifies how many people on this website that has had problems. It doesn't include those who had no problems. So I can't get a Percentage of failure.
so IMO, the poll is nearly worthless, except for showing most have failed 30-40k miles
The problem with a poll like that is that most people don't know if they have an internal engine problem or not. Just because they haven't dropped a valve doesn't mean they don't have a problem with worn guides. I had 100k on my stock engine with no noticeable problems but decided to have my guides checked. Almost every guide was out of spec, one so bad it wouldn't even register on the gauge. There is no 'safe zone', just because you reach a certain mileage doesn't mean you aren't going to have an issue. I've never understood this theory, it's like saying I've got 50k on my tires and haven't have a flat so I don't have to worry about it. The guides in the LS7 are a wear item, and the more miles you put on your engine the more likely your guides will show excessive wear.
#40
True. But I already know that all GM motors expire by 100k miles. Beyond that, you're going to have too many problems with the entire car , not just the engine.
so ya, all those parts are wearing out by 100k, doesn't matter if it is an LS7 or the atypical chevy small block.
But what I want to know is will it last to 100k without modifying the damn thing. And this poll only identifies how many people on this website that has had problems. It doesn't include those who had no problems. So I can't get a Percentage of failure.
so IMO, the poll is nearly worthless, except for showing most have failed 30-40k miles
so ya, all those parts are wearing out by 100k, doesn't matter if it is an LS7 or the atypical chevy small block.
But what I want to know is will it last to 100k without modifying the damn thing. And this poll only identifies how many people on this website that has had problems. It doesn't include those who had no problems. So I can't get a Percentage of failure.
so IMO, the poll is nearly worthless, except for showing most have failed 30-40k miles