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Old 04-26-2019, 03:57 PM
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They all looked good but #6 cyl. plug looked a bit darker than the rest of them and also showed oil residue on the threads



All the plugs looked like the left plug and cyl. 6 is the right one.

Heads were done 3 years ago by AHP at just under 18,600 miles when new plugs were installed, car now has 23,000 miles on it. I also just got it going about 3 weeks ago from winter storage if that has anything to do with this but then I figured they all should look the same and not just 1 cyl.

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Old 04-26-2019, 04:44 PM
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You are correct and that definitely should require some further investigation. Time to pull valve covers, and possibly do a compression/leak down test.
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Wiggle wiggle time
Old 04-27-2019, 09:05 AM
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AHP heads....Only 5000 miles....Wiggle test.....Really ???? Make me wonder if "The Fix" IS the problem.

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Old 04-27-2019, 10:23 AM
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That's what I was thinking and I haven't even gone to 5000 miles yet...…………..seems like any issue posted up on the LS7 and it's bad guides, fix the heads etc etc.

I'm scheduled for a retune in May at another shop. I sent the pic to the person doing the retune and I'm waiting for a response, meanwhile another friend of mine that has his own shop (general maintenance stuff not Vettes or specialty race work or whatever but he's a car nut just like me). He thinks possible running rich in that cyl but I smelled the plug when I pulled it out it didn't smell of fuel or whatever and my car doesn't burn oil at all. He also thinks a leaking injector can cause that.

I just did an oil change for this season and the Amsoil came out golden brown colour not even dark/black. I changed to Pennzoil Ultra 5W30 for this season.

I went for a drive this morning car runs nice and strong but after it cools down a bit I'm gonna pull that plug and have a look along with 1 other one to see how they compare.

edit: PM'ed Kohle with the pic we'll see what he says (if he replies).

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Old 04-27-2019, 11:52 AM
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Yes 5k miles. Its not an issue with the heads - its the CrN coating on the valves that can fail.

Other thing could be running rich...but 7 is typically lean. How is your bank 1 LTFT and STFT?
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^^^^no idea at the moment on the LTFT and STFT, the next time I drive it I can run my "Torque" app on my phone and have a passenger keep an eye on that while I drive.

Again CrN coating failing after 4600+ miles on done heads seem far fetched.

Just to confirm #7 cyl. is pass side second last hole in block correct? Is that cyl. known to usually run lean compared to the rest of them?

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7 is rear driver side. 8 is rear pass side.

And yes - the coating can fail in even less time than that.
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My bad...…………..change the bad plug to cyl. #6 not 7. The plug did come out of the pass. side second to last cyl.
Old 04-27-2019, 01:53 PM
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AHP did the heads, which guides did you go with? What else did you have done? “Stock” build?
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I went with their regular powdered metal guides (not the moldstar version), heads are ported by them.

VR Kaotik cam, headers, Peak Speed radically ported stk intake and TB, 10% ATI, YT 1.8 RR.
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So I pulled out #6 and #4 to take a look. As mentioned earlier today I drove the car with the new plugs installed so basically did about 40 or so miles (maybe a bit more) mainly highway 70-75mph, some idling in traffic and minor city driving @ 35-40mph. Some decent acceleration not WOT.

Left plug is #4 cyl. (which will be like the others) and #6 is the right plug.



Again smelling the plugs after removing them I don't smell fuel and again it looks like obviously oil is somehow getting into #6 cyl. and making it's way past the threads onto the body below the insulator area of the plug.

Will probably need to pull the pass. valve cover to have a look...………………..maybe tomorrow.
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leaky injector? swap the injector and check it again
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Oil is straight giveaway its getting in somehow. Pull the cover and see if your seal is still on properly and give the valve a lil wiggle.

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