Zr1 rough idle
#1
Zr1 rough idle
I have a 2010 Zr1 with 13k miles fully stock.
The car ran perfect until one time at cold start the car idled perfect and suddenly it rough idled and a check engine light came on.
the codes are:
p0191
u1802
p069E
p2635
p0171
p0174
p0506
I cleared the codes and start the car again these codes came back
p2635
u1082
I took the car to the shop know it been there for 3 weeks and they couldn’t figure the problem.
first assumption was the fuel pump controller module relay.
as The fuel pump controller module relay is 1400$ I didn’t want to spend that amount and I’m not sure if it will solve the problem.
after further investigation we found that if we start the car every day the car run perfect without any problem.
If we stopped the car for 2-3 days the problem return back.
any one faced the same problem?
The car ran perfect until one time at cold start the car idled perfect and suddenly it rough idled and a check engine light came on.
the codes are:
p0191
u1802
p069E
p2635
p0171
p0174
p0506
I cleared the codes and start the car again these codes came back
p2635
u1082
I took the car to the shop know it been there for 3 weeks and they couldn’t figure the problem.
first assumption was the fuel pump controller module relay.
as The fuel pump controller module relay is 1400$ I didn’t want to spend that amount and I’m not sure if it will solve the problem.
after further investigation we found that if we start the car every day the car run perfect without any problem.
If we stopped the car for 2-3 days the problem return back.
any one faced the same problem?
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Landru (08-31-2023)
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First off find yourself a diagnostic shop that knows how to diagnose cars instead of a generator repair shop or dealership that will only guess…FYI on your P2635…shouldn’t take 3 weeks to diagnose this.
#4
Drifting
Mine did the same thing but only threw P0191 and P069E codes. Local shop could find nothing wrong. Driving the car more seems to take care of the problem. Have owned the car for 10 years and this never happened before.
It's something but as of now, a mystery.
It's something but as of now, a mystery.
#5
Pro Mechanic
Pro Mechanic
I have a 2010 Zr1 with 13k miles fully stock.
The car ran perfect until one time at cold start the car idled perfect and suddenly it rough idled and a check engine light came on.
the codes are:
p0191
u1802
p069E
p2635
p0171
p0174
p0506
I cleared the codes and start the car again these codes came back
p2635
u1082
I took the car to the shop know it been there for 3 weeks and they couldn’t figure the problem.
first assumption was the fuel pump controller module relay.
as The fuel pump controller module relay is 1400$ I didn’t want to spend that amount and I’m not sure if it will solve the problem.
after further investigation we found that if we start the car every day the car run perfect without any problem.
If we stopped the car for 2-3 days the problem return back.
any one faced the same problem?
The car ran perfect until one time at cold start the car idled perfect and suddenly it rough idled and a check engine light came on.
the codes are:
p0191
u1802
p069E
p2635
p0171
p0174
p0506
I cleared the codes and start the car again these codes came back
p2635
u1082
I took the car to the shop know it been there for 3 weeks and they couldn’t figure the problem.
first assumption was the fuel pump controller module relay.
as The fuel pump controller module relay is 1400$ I didn’t want to spend that amount and I’m not sure if it will solve the problem.
after further investigation we found that if we start the car every day the car run perfect without any problem.
If we stopped the car for 2-3 days the problem return back.
any one faced the same problem?
You said you start the car everyday and no problem but you let it sit for 2-3 days then start it and the problem returns. When you start the car, are you just letting it idle in the garage or are you driving it until coolant and oil temps are normal?
Without knowing the ans. to the above, the combination of faults you list in the OP tells me the ECM "thinks" the engine is running out of fuel because you have a fault with the fuel pump controller, both front O2Ses are lean and the idle speed is below spec.
The P2635 sets when the difference between commanded fuel pressure and delivered fuel pressure is out of range. It's a shame you cleared codes because the failure records might have provided a clue to the cause of that.
A wide variety of repairs (New fuel pump module, new fuel pump, new injectors, fuel pipes) are possible for solving this fault. To solve it requires a dealer-level scan tester. Solving the DTC may also require road testing which might need to be pretty aggressive.
Last edited by Hib Halverson; 08-31-2023 at 12:09 PM.
#7
they tested the circuit as they found that there is problem with the current as the fuel pump controller module relay or the fuel pump controller module does not supply sufficient current ( some times ). Some times the car run without any problem
#8
The problem happened to me suddenly and it remained for 5 days. After I took the car to the shop they found that the car run fine some times. They couldn’t know how to generate the problem or how to avoid it or how to solve it. They think it is either from the fuel pump controller module relay or the fuel pump controller module.
#9
Need to understand the situation a little better.
You said you start the car everyday and no problem but you let it sit for 2-3 days then start it and the problem returns. When you start the car, are you just letting it idle in the garage or are you driving it until coolant and oil temps are normal?
Without knowing the ans. to the above, the combination of faults you list in the OP tells me the ECM "thinks" the engine is running out of fuel because you have a fault with the fuel pump controller, both front O2Ses are lean and the idle speed is below spec.
The P2635 sets when the difference between commanded fuel pressure and delivered fuel pressure is out of range. It's a shame you cleared codes because the failure records might have provided a clue to the cause of that.
A wide variety of repairs (New fuel pump module, new fuel pump, new injectors, fuel pipes) are possible for solving this fault. To solve it requires a dealer-level scan tester. Solving the DTC may also require road testing which might need to be pretty aggressive.
You said you start the car everyday and no problem but you let it sit for 2-3 days then start it and the problem returns. When you start the car, are you just letting it idle in the garage or are you driving it until coolant and oil temps are normal?
Without knowing the ans. to the above, the combination of faults you list in the OP tells me the ECM "thinks" the engine is running out of fuel because you have a fault with the fuel pump controller, both front O2Ses are lean and the idle speed is below spec.
The P2635 sets when the difference between commanded fuel pressure and delivered fuel pressure is out of range. It's a shame you cleared codes because the failure records might have provided a clue to the cause of that.
A wide variety of repairs (New fuel pump module, new fuel pump, new injectors, fuel pipes) are possible for solving this fault. To solve it requires a dealer-level scan tester. Solving the DTC may also require road testing which might need to be pretty aggressive.
#10
Hi, did you ever find the cause of the issue?
#12
Finally
the problem was solved and it was the fuel pump controller module relay.
they discounted the part and I don’t know why!
after few years it will be difficult to find one.
the problem was solved and it was the fuel pump controller module relay.
they discounted the part and I don’t know why!
after few years it will be difficult to find one.
#17
Pro
I have the same problem. Previously had codes: p0191, p069e, p2635 and u1802. Now I only have a consistent u1802. Performed a pin slip test as well as check connections for corrosion. Looking into diagnostics this weekend to differentiate between a CAN bus issue or module. I believe the 20877840 Fuel pump driver module needs to be programmed. Does the 25910000 Fuel pump driver control module relay need to be programmed?
Last edited by O2Thief; 10-13-2023 at 09:12 PM.
#18
The relay is plug and play the fuel pump control module will need to be programmed to the car. Try disconnecting the battery and fully charging it then reconnect the battery as it worked for me now no codes show up. Get a battery tender or fully charge the battery before you drive it as yesterday I went to drive the car after letting it sit for a week and the same issue popped up and threw the codes. I charged the battery over night to 97% and today it started and I drove it for a couple of hours with no issue.