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STS Rear Mount
hey just figured i'd tell people about the new system coming out. oh yea and i'm pretty sure i'm getting one of the first kits. how 
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I really like the concept of these systems. The proof will be in the success of the first few cars. I view the primary advantage of this kit in the CARB legal aspect and the ease of installation since the exhaust manifolds are not touched. Are there any Availability dates?
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Originally Posted by baf2000_1
I really like the concept of these systems. The proof will be in the success of the first few cars. I view the primary advantage of this kit in the CARB legal aspect and the ease of installation since the exhaust manifolds are not touched. Are there any Availability dates?
It's kinda like the turbo system that was on my NSX, replaced the exhaust system except my engine was only 3 feet away! That's a lot of tubing in the C6 system.
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http://synergymotorsports.net/
510-796-3749 Talk to Rick.
STS is finishing is up the C6 right now.
Master CARB approval is projected at the end of Spring.
Synergy got a 505 rwhp/500 lbs. ft., 400 torque at 2,500 rpm on a completely stock Z06 on only 5psi. Flat line torque wins races, which is one reason why turbo cars move hard. 7 psi. should go to 570/570-600/600. Rick is finishing the car up right now.
A C6 Motor should lay down even more torque. And yes, an STS turbo cam, that is designed well, will carry the power on an angle to 6,600/6,800 rpm. Rick has designed about eight custom STS cams.
Brent
510-796-3749 Talk to Rick.
STS is finishing is up the C6 right now.
Master CARB approval is projected at the end of Spring.
Synergy got a 505 rwhp/500 lbs. ft., 400 torque at 2,500 rpm on a completely stock Z06 on only 5psi. Flat line torque wins races, which is one reason why turbo cars move hard. 7 psi. should go to 570/570-600/600. Rick is finishing the car up right now.
A C6 Motor should lay down even more torque. And yes, an STS turbo cam, that is designed well, will carry the power on an angle to 6,600/6,800 rpm. Rick has designed about eight custom STS cams.
Brent
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I should be getting the first production kit - although I will be running 8psi on a stock 06' with the A6 tranny. Looks like 60# injectors and maybe a fuel pump upgrade, but bone stock other than that. The original LS6 cam these LS2 motors have is a great boost cam, and it is well known the LS6 heads flow great. Just need to run in the 10's A/F wise with all that compression and boost. Should be good for about 550rwhp 
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Look at any front mount race car and measure the piping to air to water intercooler which is usually in the passenger seat. A lot of piping.
Synergy measured only 1/2 psi loss from front to rear without cats, with mufflers behind the turbos. 1 psi. loss with the cats.
Actually extremely efficient. No extra heat in the engine compartment and the extra surface on the tubes cools the air back to intercooler.
Brent
Synergy measured only 1/2 psi loss from front to rear without cats, with mufflers behind the turbos. 1 psi. loss with the cats.
Actually extremely efficient. No extra heat in the engine compartment and the extra surface on the tubes cools the air back to intercooler.
Brent
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Originally Posted by OBSSSD@work
I should be getting the first production kit - although I will be running 8psi on a stock 06' with the A6 tranny. Looks like 60# injectors and maybe a fuel pump upgrade, but bone stock other than that. The original LS6 cam these LS2 motors have is a great boost cam, and it is well known the LS6 heads flow great. Just need to run in the 10's A/F wise with all that compression and boost. Should be good for about 550rwhp
Chris
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From: Westport, MA. www.tbyrnemotorsports.com - 1-877-4-TBYRNE
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Originally Posted by Saleen_Boy
Rear mounted turbos actually work? Youd think that with all the piping youd get some serious boost loss.
These kits have been working very well. I run one on my '04 GTO. It's an intercooled single turbo. The car made 450hp/475ft/lb with 7# of boost.
I'm going to see when we can start taking orders for these.
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STS has designed this logical, simple, efficient kit for several other cars/trucks successfully. This could be the ultimate killer street Vette, if the price doesn't get too crazy. And if a pressure loss concerns you, just shim the BOV out a little and make up for it. Easy to adjust this boost to whatever you, or the engine, can withstand. Plus, pop the hood..... no power adders to be seen.
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Originally Posted by RWSjr
STS website has FAQ to answer that.
That's the exact reason for charge air intercooling on all FI engines worldwide, that is to dramtically cool the charge air temp before the charge air enters the engine for efficient combustion of the air fuel mixtures, hope this helps.
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The STS kit does not add any heat. Heat near the gas tanks is already present, from the exhaust pipes. The turbos themsleves do not produce heat on their own. Remember that exhaust temps with the rear mount location are much lower, so if you are visualizing glowing -red turbos back there, that is not at all the case.
Peter: FYI, the C5 STS kit does include a front- mounted intercooler. I would expect the C6 kit to be the same.
Peter: FYI, the C5 STS kit does include a front- mounted intercooler. I would expect the C6 kit to be the same.
Last edited by TTRotary; Feb 15, 2006 at 07:32 PM.
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Originally Posted by TTRotary
Peter: FYI, the C5 STS kit does include a front- mounted intercooler. I would expect the C6 kit to be the same.
Peter
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I'm going to disagree somewhat here. at very low boost levels the air isn't heated as much and the intercoolers can become a bit restrictive without a really huge gain.
the cross over point seems to be around 10 psi depending on how much the air is heated by the turbo system and the rear mount turbos don't carry near as much heat.
with the STS I don't think the "punch" from the boost will be as good as the heat energy from the exh is much lower so the turbos will spool quite a bit slower but they should still make decent top end power, just not as much low end torq.
for my money, if you are only going to blow 5-6 psi why bother with turbos, bolt on a blower and be done.
low compression, intercooling, and higher boost gets you into the sweat spot of the turbo deal and makes the big power.
if all you want is 600 hp, I think there are cheaper ways to get there.
not bashing the STS at all, I am amazed by the solid performance of something I didn't think would work well!!!
either way, the c6 FI scene is pretty exciting stuff. thanks for the informative posts.
the cross over point seems to be around 10 psi depending on how much the air is heated by the turbo system and the rear mount turbos don't carry near as much heat.
with the STS I don't think the "punch" from the boost will be as good as the heat energy from the exh is much lower so the turbos will spool quite a bit slower but they should still make decent top end power, just not as much low end torq.
for my money, if you are only going to blow 5-6 psi why bother with turbos, bolt on a blower and be done.
low compression, intercooling, and higher boost gets you into the sweat spot of the turbo deal and makes the big power.
if all you want is 600 hp, I think there are cheaper ways to get there.
not bashing the STS at all, I am amazed by the solid performance of something I didn't think would work well!!!
either way, the c6 FI scene is pretty exciting stuff. thanks for the informative posts.