APS vs STS turbo setup.. APS dyno chart?
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APS vs STS turbo setup.. APS dyno chart?
anyone have a dyno for the APS kit?
both look like clean installs.. i'm curious what PSI does it take for APS to make 630rwhp.
right now heres the tale of the tape from what i've seen:
Both kits around $8,500'ish
APS TT intercooled 630rwhp (psi??)
STS turbo kit 487rwhp/498torq (5psi -safe) 537rwhp/558torq (7psi)
what additions would help maximize these setups?
3" exhuast/
dart 205 heads/
blower cam/
both look like clean installs.. i'm curious what PSI does it take for APS to make 630rwhp.
right now heres the tale of the tape from what i've seen:
Both kits around $8,500'ish
APS TT intercooled 630rwhp (psi??)
STS turbo kit 487rwhp/498torq (5psi -safe) 537rwhp/558torq (7psi)
what additions would help maximize these setups?
3" exhuast/
dart 205 heads/
blower cam/
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Originally Posted by Insom
anyone have a dyno for the APS kit?
both look like clean installs.. i'm curious what PSI does it take for APS to make 630rwhp.
right now heres the tale of the tape from what i've seen:
Both kits around $8,500'ish
APS TT intercooled 630rwhp (psi??)
STS turbo kit 487rwhp/498torq (5psi -safe) 537rwhp/558torq (7psi)
what additions would help maximize these setups?
3" exhuast/
dart 205 heads/
blower cam/
both look like clean installs.. i'm curious what PSI does it take for APS to make 630rwhp.
right now heres the tale of the tape from what i've seen:
Both kits around $8,500'ish
APS TT intercooled 630rwhp (psi??)
STS turbo kit 487rwhp/498torq (5psi -safe) 537rwhp/558torq (7psi)
what additions would help maximize these setups?
3" exhuast/
dart 205 heads/
blower cam/
They are both great setups.
The APS was at 9 psi.
Turbo cam
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From: Valencia Ca
Originally Posted by Insom
anyone have a dyno for the APS kit?
both look like clean installs.. i'm curious what PSI does it take for APS to make 630rwhp.
right now heres the tale of the tape from what i've seen:
Both kits around $8,500'ish
APS TT intercooled 630rwhp (psi??)
STS turbo kit 487rwhp/498torq (5psi -safe) 537rwhp/558torq (7psi)
what additions would help maximize these setups?
3" exhuast/
dart 205 heads/
blower cam/
both look like clean installs.. i'm curious what PSI does it take for APS to make 630rwhp.
right now heres the tale of the tape from what i've seen:
Both kits around $8,500'ish
APS TT intercooled 630rwhp (psi??)
STS turbo kit 487rwhp/498torq (5psi -safe) 537rwhp/558torq (7psi)
what additions would help maximize these setups?
3" exhuast/
dart 205 heads/
blower cam/
Stay tuned, our APS assembly is alive and purring.
Dyno numbers when we get them and no, it's not going to be the epic to end all epics and epic proportions, blah,blah....but I suspect it will be plenty strong.
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my guess is the APS is going to be very similar, if not identical, to the TTiX in how it delivers both torque and hp. What'll be interesting is to see what the APS does in big 427 cube setups.
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Originally Posted by APS
Hi Charlie, What fuel are you tuning with, 91 octane? 
Peter
Peter
Yes, it will be 91. This kit is absolutely flawless....I hope you have components in stock and ready to go.....we are going to need a lot more
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Originally Posted by CharlieTuner@AandACorvette
Hi Peter,
Yes, it will be 91. This kit is absolutely flawless....I hope you have components in stock and ready to go.....we are going to need a lot more
Charlie
Yes, it will be 91. This kit is absolutely flawless....I hope you have components in stock and ready to go.....we are going to need a lot more
Charlie
Do you guys ever utilze a water/methanol injection system to help eliminate detonation and allow for higher power with 91 octane fuel? It mut be tough for you guys having to detune engines to suit the lower fuel octane in CA though I suspect that you're very experienced with tuning on the lower octane fuel.
The first batch of APS intercooled twin turbo systems are sold (sorry to tell you this, demand was greater than first expected)though luckily we have scheduled production for another 50 TT systems to be completed by the end of June 06, this should cover your immediate needs.
I'm really looking forward to seeing the final results on your 427 TT build up, please post more info and pics when you get the beast tuned and fully completed
Peter
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Originally Posted by APS
I guess the 91 octane fuel will be the limiting power factor on the A@A big cube/APS twin turbo combination though I'm sure you will work your tuning magic and produce some very stout power and torque numbers.
Do you guys ever utilze a water/methanol injection system to help eliminate detonation and allow for higher power with 91 octane fuel? It mut be tough for you guys having to detune engines to suit the lower fuel octane in CA though I suspect that you're very experienced with tuning on the lower octane fuel.
The first batch of APS intercooled twin turbo systems are sold (sorry to tell you this, demand was greater than first expected)though luckily we have scheduled production for another 50 TT systems to be completed by the end of June 06, this should cover your immediate needs.
I'm really looking forward to seeing the final results on your 427 TT build up, please post more info and pics when you get the beast tuned and fully completed
Peter
Do you guys ever utilze a water/methanol injection system to help eliminate detonation and allow for higher power with 91 octane fuel? It mut be tough for you guys having to detune engines to suit the lower fuel octane in CA though I suspect that you're very experienced with tuning on the lower octane fuel.
The first batch of APS intercooled twin turbo systems are sold (sorry to tell you this, demand was greater than first expected)though luckily we have scheduled production for another 50 TT systems to be completed by the end of June 06, this should cover your immediate needs.
I'm really looking forward to seeing the final results on your 427 TT build up, please post more info and pics when you get the beast tuned and fully completed
Peter
It's getting worse, the Calfornia 91, is now mixed with a "Corn," based additive. Even my wifes Mercedes is pinging this week on 91 Chevron.
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Originally Posted by Insom
Peter: what kinda power do you think we could get in texas w/ our over priced 93 octane?
for a stock bottom end c6.
for a stock bottom end c6.
You may also need to upgrade the stock clutch and consider installing a larger more efficient radiator and engine oil cooler to cope with the high ambient temperatures in Texas.
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Originally Posted by #001 2001 Z06
Peter,
It's getting worse, the Calfornia 91, is now mixed with a "Corn," based additive. Even my wifes Mercedes is pinging this week on 91 Chevron.
Brent
It's getting worse, the Calfornia 91, is now mixed with a "Corn," based additive. Even my wifes Mercedes is pinging this week on 91 Chevron.
Brent
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Originally Posted by APS
Hi Brent, Thanks for that info on the fuel, that's really bad news. I can now understand why water/methanol injection is really starting to become popular with import tuner guys who work with turbochargers and superchargers. Is there no high octane fuel sold at the pumps in CA?
Peter
Peter
It is a National thing.
DRM thought octane is about 87 now.
One the head guys in the Corvette world (both he and his wife are friends with Teri and Myself), was driving back from Bowling Green, said he noticed about a 12% drop in fuel effieciency (lack fo BTU) from 93 to 91. He puts five gallons of 100 in his car now.
Yes, you can get smog legal 100 at a few gas stations. You generally have to go out of your way. I am going to store some.
Since one the things I do is corporate business consulting.
Current White House. I am Replubican, by the way.
Price of oil $22 in 2000.
Price of oil today $70.
10 billion in TAX CREDITS to Oil companies for using corn for 2006.
Diversification of Assets into Produce(Farms) for the Oil Companies
Federal Farm subsidies.
Profit for change of product.
Corn fuel provides more wear and less btu power. So you burn more of it and have to buy more.
Most of it goes back to Texas.
If anyone is still not convinced, 60-65% of the current net taxable earnings of the S&P500 is big oil. Another 20% Pharma's. 10% Financials. What's left? You tell me who is paying for it.
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