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Old May 12, 2008 | 11:43 AM
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What blower would be better suited for my setup with the GT-11 cam, Maggie or Novi 1500/Vortech type? Thanks in advance..
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RWS,
I'd go Novi 1500 or 2000!!! Call Chris or Doug at ECS and tell them your goals, then make the choice between these two units... www.eastcoastsupercharging.com

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Old May 14, 2008 | 12:35 AM
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If your talking about the Comp Cams GT11 that LPE sells, neither is great but I think the centrifugals tend to handle the overlap a little better. Maybe a tuner will chime in for you.
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Old May 14, 2008 | 05:43 AM
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Default ATI ProCharger F-1A

How about an ATI ProCharger F-1A and our blower camshaft?

Link to EPP blower camshaft.
http://www.exoticperformanceplus.com....html?item=679




LS2 402 with ATI ProCharger F-1A at 14.4 psi of boost.

Link to the car this dyno graph is from. Bob
http://www.exoticperformanceplus.com...Car.php?car=29
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I believe a centrifigal would work out better for that cam, feel free to give us a call if you have any questions. 609-752-0321
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I'd go Novi 1500 or 2000!!! Call Chris or Doug at ECS and tell them your goals, then make the choice between these two units... www.eastcoastsupercharging.com



Thnaks! We are working on fitting the NOVI 2200 for the C6's now


Penny58 is in need for his 402!!
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Old May 14, 2008 | 09:35 AM
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I believe a centrifigal would work out better for that cam, feel free to give us a call if you have any questions. 609-752-0321
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I didn't see where you mentioned how you intend to use the car? Some setups would be better suited for drag use, or road course, or "extreme" street use Especially when you involve a big old cam. I have seen roots blower respond really well to tight LSA cams,but I don't see how anyone can make a good recommendation without knowing your expectations first. Is this the same car you had the crazy blower setup on before? if so, how much of that is being retained? I honestly think your old setup was pretty stout, and would have worked well with a GT11.

*edit* was the car I'm thinking of RWSsr ? I might be confusing you with someone else

Give me a call or PM if you want to discuss setups,
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Originally Posted by DOUG @ ECS
Thnaks! We are working on fitting the NOVI 2200 for the C6's now


Penny58 is in need for his 402!!
So can you do the Novi 2000 yet for the C6?
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Originally Posted by MDMCZ06
I didn't see where you mentioned how you intend to use the car? Some setups would be better suited for drag use, or road course, or "extreme" street use Especially when you involve a big old cam. I have seen roots blower respond really well to tight LSA cams,but I don't see how anyone can make a good recommendation without knowing your expectations first. Is this the same car you had the crazy blower setup on before? if so, how much of that is being retained? I honestly think your old setup was pretty stout, and would have worked well with a GT11.

*edit* was the car I'm thinking of RWSsr ? I might be confusing you with someone else

Give me a call or PM if you want to discuss setups,
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Thanks for the responses guys. My "old" setup was same except for the cam, which was a G5X-3. As for expectations, none really. I'd like to have that stump pulling torque the maggie gives, but adding that to what i have would make it a tire spinning beast. (Yes i know you don't have to floor it.) On the other hand, a centri comes on slower as to "build" power as you go. With a 3000 stall conv. i get pretty good jump now. The GT-11 cam doesn't pull as hard as the G5X-3 did on the top end, which now i'm thinking a centri would shine for this. Dunno, i've been wanting the maggie setup for so long, hard to let go. I do see how the centri might compliment my setup better. Mostly this will be street driven, occasional track and/or autocross. Any more thoughts guys?
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Originally Posted by DOUG @ ECS
Thanks! We are working on fitting the NOVI 2200 for the C6's now

Now were talkin'!!!!!!
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So can you do the Novi 2000 yet for the C6?


I'm going to hopefully skip over the 2000's for the C6 and go right to the 2200 since the mounting holes are the same on the 1500 and 2200, but totally different for the 2000. One less step on the auto cad and I can get them in oil fed or self contained so the option is still there, while I have to oil feed the 2000's. I personally prefer that, but many do not.

I have the mock up head unit here from Paxton, I just need a break to start the mock up itself, but this is a bad time of year for that so it might take a few weeks to finalise.

This will probably require a custom radiator which we will supply to fit that large of a head unit, but at those power levels a better radiator is necessary either way IMO.
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Now were talkin'!!!!!!
Yes we are both slightly demented when it comes to HP needs.
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Originally Posted by DOUG @ ECS
Yes we are both slightly demented when it comes to HP needs.
I knew that was you at my Dr's office, leaving as I was going in...
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Originally Posted by EPP
How about an ATI ProCharger F-1A and our blower camshaft?

Link to EPP blower camshaft.
http://www.exoticperformanceplus.com....html?item=679




LS2 402 with ATI ProCharger F-1A at 14.4 psi of boost.

Link to the car this dyno graph is from. Bob
http://www.exoticperformanceplus.com...Car.php?car=29
This would be my choice,hands down
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Originally Posted by DOUG @ ECS
Thnaks! We are working on fitting the NOVI 2200 for the C6's now


Penny58 is in need for his 402!!
I am patiently waiting

John
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Originally Posted by 99 C-5 F1C VETTE
This would be my choice,hands down
It does make for a very potent package! Bob
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Thanks for the responses guys. My "old" setup was same except for the cam, which was a G5X-3. As for expectations, none really. I'd like to have that stump pulling torque the maggie gives, but adding that to what i have would make it a tire spinning beast. (Yes i know you don't have to floor it.) On the other hand, a centri comes on slower as to "build" power as you go. With a 3000 stall conv. i get pretty good jump now. The GT-11 cam doesn't pull as hard as the G5X-3 did on the top end, which now i'm thinking a centri would shine for this. Dunno, i've been wanting the maggie setup for so long, hard to let go. I do see how the centri might compliment my setup better. Mostly this will be street driven, occasional track and/or autocross. Any more thoughts guys?

I would have to agree with you in regards to the centuri mixing well with the GT-11 to give you a big topend punch, and I think the days you track it or autocross, it will be a blast as long as you have enough straightaway to really wind it out.

Then again, it sounds like the majority of the time will be spent on the street, and you know as well as I do the Maggie is a monster between stoplights! On track days, the Maggie will get you up out of the corner very handily, and making passing on exit a breeze.

I'm leaning toward the roots for what you're looking to do, I think the 122 Maggie would give you more than you're looking for, and still have room to grow if you wanted to lower comp and run more boost later.

Let me know if I can answer any speecific questions for you,
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Originally Posted by 99 C-5 F1C VETTE
This would be my choice,hands down
Mine, too.

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