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Old Dec 8, 2008 | 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by EdwardETraylorIII
james,

As I said in your other thread - YES you NEED METH! You can run 2-3 more degs of timing and 2-3 more Lbs of boost with the proper meth setup!

However, your tranny is your weakest link.

BTW, be careful how you argue that a you know a TT is better than a blower. It's a matter of opinion as someone with a hefty budget and the tuning/fabrication skills can certainly make one just as fast and drivable as the other.

With that being said, I'm a big fan of TT setups. You can make killer power and get great mileage.
What Ed said, and from a S/C guy, do the TT setup if money is not an issue... Methanol injection is a MUST with f.I., ANY tuner that tries to steer you away from it, either doesn't know how to set it up or tune for it properly... other than that, go for the choice that you like most, the only kit I would stay away from on your street car it the STS... Twin or single rear mounts work GREAT on a race car, but street cars are better suited with front mounts...
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Old Dec 8, 2008 | 06:29 PM
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Mr. Big alleges: Twin or single rear mounts work GREAT on a race car, but street cars are better suited with front mounts...
The man hit the nail on the nose! Clearly this man knows of what he speaks!
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Old Dec 8, 2008 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by EdwardETraylorIII
You're still going to need a great deal of tuning to get this thing making the power it should and to live at that level.

I don't have any experience with enlarging stock injectors- and quite frankly that scares me. However, this may be due solely to the fact that I'm ignorant on the subject. Perhaps it's perfectly effective?

I can tell you that you can get 96 or 120 Lbs/hr injectors and get a driver from "9 sec z" on this forum and it will work PERFECTLY. Tuning is the same amount of work if you install this module with the bigger injectors. No more no less.
Here is what I was referring to:

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/1567869560-post1.html

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Old Dec 8, 2008 | 09:44 PM
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note to self-buy extra wide screen monitor.

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Old Dec 8, 2008 | 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr.Big
What Ed said, and from a S/C guy, do the TT setup if money is not an issue... Methanol injection is a MUST with f.I., ANY tuner that tries to steer you away from it, either doesn't know how to set it up or tune for it properly... other than that, go for the choice that you like most, the only kit I would stay away from on your street car it the STS... Twin or single rear mounts work GREAT on a race car, but street cars are better suited with front mounts...
thanks for the help, as i have been getting alot of help from you and others l8ly thanks for keeping up with me
could you tell me what about the rear mount TT that makes it a bad street car and better race car?

a buddy of mine, who runs a shop and would be doing the install, talked to the guys at STS and they gave him a killer deal. I am not saying this is why i am going for the STS, but if i could gather some info as to why the APS, or the TTI is better, than i have no problem spending the extra $.

again thanks for the help everyone,
install, pics,vids, and all the goodies will deff come when i pull the trigger..and im feeling trigger happy
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Old Dec 8, 2008 | 11:32 PM
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I had a procharger with 604 rwhp. I am now installing the APS TT kit. They make a complete kit with everything including exhaust. I'll let you know in a few weeks how it works out. PM if you would like more details. I do know I bought the last APS ZO6 kit and they are on holiday until mid January. ZO6 kits probably wont be available until Feb. next year
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Old Dec 8, 2008 | 11:36 PM
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Since the STS kit is almost as much as an APS I ruled it out right away

re: the smog comments, I don't see why it wouldn't unless you live in a complete **** state like california, I have the APS exhaust with high flow cats and see no reason it wouldn't pass the dyno test here as long as it's running clean.

fstpoon: any chance you could kindly go back and hit enter a couple times?
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Old Dec 8, 2008 | 11:45 PM
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F.P.,
Glad to see Her coming together!!!!!!! looking killer!!! Please keep us posted
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there's a vendor here who has mentioned RPM now has a built A6 tranny. At the time it was right around 3k $ for the swap. I'm hoping to get my car back soon, it was pushing 607/518(D1 s/c) till fuel problems kicked, but my A6 will never see the track, its a straight up hwy monster. Prolly go TT when I get out school and have more money to play with, I miss my previous turbo car. Have fun with the car when its done.
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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr.Big
F.P.,
Glad to see Her coming together!!!!!!! looking killer!!! Please keep us posted
Hi Jeremy! Thanks!!
Her is the link to my thread..I accidentally posted it in the general discussion instead of FI.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...-corvette.html

Can't wait..should get her up and running this week...and pick her up on Tuesday. Will take back in January to get boosted, final tune and dyno!
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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by EdwardETraylorIII
james,

As I said in your other thread - YES you NEED METH! You can run 2-3 more degs of timing and 2-3 more Lbs of boost with the proper meth setup!

However, your tranny is your weakest link.

BTW, be careful how you argue that a you know a TT is better than a blower. It's a matter of opinion as someone with a hefty budget and the tuning/fabrication skills can certainly make one just as fast and drivable as the other.

With that being said, I'm a big fan of TT setups. You can make killer power and get great mileage.
You can make good power with either. If I had the extra money, I would have gone TT, but I'm happy with the performance I have been blessed with.

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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by BLOWNBLUEZ06
You can make good power with either. If I had the extra money, I would have gone TT, but I'm happy with the performance I have been blessed with.
This is why blower's rule IMO.

Look at that power curve.

Linear and predictable, with strong torque all the way to the top with no letting up, all from a bolt on kit from AA.

Dare I ask anyone post a dyno graph of a bolt on TT kit which can compare?
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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by tlaselva

Dare I ask anyone post a dyno graph of a bolt on TT kit which can compare?
Sorry for TT's making power under the curve. Dare I ask for you to show me comparable results in a C6.
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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by RoadRebel
Sorry for TT's making power under the curve. Dare I ask for you to show me comparable results in a C6.
More power under the curve?

If I'm looking for more power under the curve, I'll buy a Maggie.

And I was under the impression we were discussing power adders, not car platforms.

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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by BLOWNBLUEZ06
You can make good power with either.
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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 10:37 AM
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I wish I could post a picture to this forum. I'd be glad to show a you a "comparable" TT dyno graph (on pump petrol).
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I understand the power under the curve thing and that's why my Maggie felt so powerful. Problem is that the lower end torque in many cases is unuseable. With my power, I am all too happy to have the delay in torque to help maintain traction.
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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 10:56 AM
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BlownBlueZ06 is absolutely right. If you can't get traction (and it's VERY hard to on the street even with slicks) at the 700+ ft-lbs level.
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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by tlaselva
And I was under the impression we were discussing power adders, not car platforms.
This is the C6 FI Forum, and the OP owns a C6 which would make it platform relevant. Last I checked ECS and A&A cant fit a bigger head units in the C6. When they do, game on.
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Originally Posted by tlaselva
This is why blower's rule IMO.

Look at that power curve.

Linear and predictable, with strong torque all the way to the top with no letting up, all from a bolt on kit from AA.

Dare I ask anyone post a dyno graph of a bolt on TT kit which can compare?
I'd venture a guess that Vindication's dyno chart would match or exceed that, and I think he made over 900rwhp at only 14.5 psi, versus at 19psi for the centri.

I do agree, however, that some of the built engine/centri SC setups do make very nice power all around.

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http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s...arkTTFinal.jpg

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