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Old May 13, 2009 | 02:58 AM
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I need your help for going a step from LPE616 package to a Twin Turbo, I was thinking of doing Supercharger but many people disagree and to go for the Twin Turbo, now I need you experience bros to help me is it right to go for the Twin Turbo ? what is the best I know there is STS and APS and more but since I don`t have that much experience I need your help .

My current setup : LPE 616 : 525rwhp/485trq

I`m leaving In Kuwait which means HOT weather in the Summer .. about 55C could be more ! but I`m not using the car daily but I wish to keep it for daily use . really need your help, comments, recommendations.

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i would rather have the A&A kit and take the left over money and buy a cam and exhaust and blow the turbo kit car away. thats what i did lol. i love the power. feels great. drives great. look into the A&A kit or the ECS kit. both great kits. i went with A&A kit just because i was on the west coast.
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Old May 13, 2009 | 03:28 AM
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i would rather have the A&A kit and take the left over money and buy a cam and exhaust and blow the turbo kit car away. thats what i did lol. i love the power. feels great. drives great. look into the A&A kit or the ECS kit. both great kits. i went with A&A kit just because i was on the west coast.
http://www.ststurbo.com/turbo_vs__supercharger
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Ok, here's the deal, any BIG power forced induction kit "CAN" run hotter if not built correctly. You are going to just need to determine what you really want.

Also think about the issues of each kit and who or how you will get them fixed. Since you are in another country, just running down to the shop isn't going to be an option.

What are you goals?

How much power do you really want to have?

How much are you wanting to drive the car?

Will you want to run the AC much?

All of the kits SC and TT are made to work on a stock motor with no issues, but after you build a motor things change. If you want to run on E85 you will be able to keep the car running cooler as well.

The people that will tell you SC is faster or TT is faster are all just giving options, Facts are your budget will determine what will go as fast as you want. Keep in mind that SC cars often have Belt slip issues if you don't get the upgraded pulleys and belts.
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Old May 13, 2009 | 08:17 AM
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Ok, here's the deal, any BIG power forced induction kit "CAN" run hotter if not built correctly. You are going to just need to determine what you really want.

Also think about the issues of each kit and who or how you will get them fixed. Since you are in another country, just running down to the shop isn't going to be an option.

What are you goals?

How much power do you really want to have?

How much are you wanting to drive the car?

Will you want to run the AC much?

All of the kits SC and TT are made to work on a stock motor with no issues, but after you build a motor things change. If you want to run on E85 you will be able to keep the car running cooler as well.

The people that will tell you SC is faster or TT is faster are all just giving options, Facts are your budget will determine what will go as fast as you want. Keep in mind that SC cars often have Belt slip issues if you don't get the upgraded pulleys and belts.
My goals depends on how much I will pay for ? if I`m going to pay like 15-18K then I would prefer to get at least 200rw/150 trq more than what I`m doing now.

I`m driving the car on week ends and sometimes in week days ... its my second car

AC is a must here

* I have one good guy who installed APS package for C5 ZO6 before.

* I Love my Idle ... can`t keep it ? or I have to remove the CAM
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Old May 13, 2009 | 08:20 AM
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You may need a "different" cam but can still keep the cam sound. My TT Z06 never gets over 173 degrees and can be daily driven and has a cool idle.

If you are just trying to spend 15-18k then you will have to go SC since you will spend close to 15k on just the TT kit alone.
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Originally Posted by atomicfusion
You may need a "different" cam but can still keep the cam sound. My TT Z06 never gets over 173 degrees and can be daily driven and has a cool idle.

If you are just trying to spend 15-18k then you will have to go SC since you will spend close to 15k on just the TT kit alone.
Thnx for sharing Bro ... what is your package ? dyno ? how long you have it in your car ? problems, issues ?
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Originally Posted by meshoooo
Thnx for sharing Bro ... what is your package ? dyno ? how long you have it in your car ? problems, issues ?
My car is viewable here

LSX 434 with Custom modified APS kit by IPS Motorsports
Auto conversion
E85 Conversion
Custom IPS Motorsports Fuel system built to support 2000rwhp
Car has dyno'd over 1000rwhp and will dyno much more this week once we are done with final tuning of the upgrades.

I have had the car since 2007, my build is definately not in the 15-18k range
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Old May 13, 2009 | 11:28 AM
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if you expect over 1000 rwhp, look to spend 50-75k.

650 rwhp can be done under 20k
750 under 30K
Then there is a no-mans land from 750-1000. fuel system, engine upgrades, etc

The nice thing with a turbo kit is, you can produce 600-1100+ HP with the click of a button and the right fuel in the gas tank and supporting mods
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Originally Posted by Louis @ LG Motorsports
if you expect over 1000 rwhp, look to spend 50-75k.

650 rwhp can be done under 20k
750 under 30K
Then there is a no-mans land from 750-1000. fuel system, engine upgrades, etc

The nice thing with a turbo kit is, you can produce 600-1100+ HP with the click of a button and the right fuel in the gas tank and supporting mods
I Love this option But I Love my Car idle I love my cam and every body is saying I have to remove my cam and the sound will come to CorSa Only

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Old May 13, 2009 | 01:21 PM
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The Stock lobes, when put in the right places, work just fine with that. It will, and it can idle like stock when done right

we chose to go more aggressive on our cams, as there is some power there, and the customers want people to KNOW there is something done to it

The cam that is in there, MAY work, but I would have to look at the lobes. You can get aggressive with turbo grinds, they just have to be turbo specific.
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Old May 18, 2009 | 02:09 PM
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Go STS twin turbo...you already have plenty of low end unless you want to just burn up tires or have to learn how to granny the thing. Let your current setup handle the low end and then let the STS pull like a beast from 2900 on and you will be able to maintain traction way better.
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Old May 18, 2009 | 02:46 PM
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Depending on what parts you already have we charge about 50k for our 8 second package. Feel free to PM or email me if interested.
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My car sounds insane, and has the "cammed" sound too... don't be fooled by what "they" say.

If you have the budget, it can be done.

As Fran stated, they can make a SC car run 8's for 50k, I know IPS can build you a TT car for a very similar amount depending on the power you want.

Brandon@IPS can be reached at 614.444.5884 or sales@ipsmotorsports.net
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I've been in Kuwait twice and I'm pretty sure it's the hottest place on earth! I'd try and talk with some people there that have the kits you're looking at and see if they have heat issues. If your goal is to increase HP by 200 you might consider just spraying the setup you have now. It would stay the same (cam, AC etc.) but be faster when you want it. It would also cost considerably less. If you plan to race a lot or think you will want more power later it may not be ideal, but something to consider.
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Originally Posted by meshoooo
My goals depends on how much I will pay for ? if I`m going to pay like 15-18K then I would prefer to get at least 200rw/150 trq more than what I`m doing now.

I`m driving the car on week ends and sometimes in week days ... its my second car

AC is a must here

* I have one good guy who installed APS package for C5 ZO6 before.

* I Love my Idle ... can`t keep it ? or I have to remove the CAM
You can get an A and A kit and so long as you keep the rwhp around 650 and boost around 6 psi the stock block should do ok. This can be done for right around 10k including kit and install/ forge the engine for another 5-7 grand and you can change the pulley and be good 700-750rwhp still coming in 16-20k. thats what I would do. Past that you are going to need to spend the $ as people have said to go to the next level and go twin turbo for high high hp setup although it can still be achieved with the A and A. thats what I would do. just IMO
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Thank you brothers .. really appreciate your help and comments and I decide to have the APS Twin package and its Bought and coming Soon with Forged Eng .. wait for sneezing Z.

Thank you all.

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50k is right on the money.....
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Originally Posted by meshoooo
Thank you brothers .. really appreciate your help and comments and I decide to have the APS Twin package and its Bought and coming Soon with Forged Eng .. wait for sneezing Z.

Thank you all.
Good choice.

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Good choice.

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