FI how long does yours last?
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Melting Slicks
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FI how long does yours last?
My supercharger lasted ruffly 10K miles on my paxton before the bearing went out. How long did yours last?
Just curious on the different brands and how many miles your getting out of them
Just curious on the different brands and how many miles your getting out of them
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10K is like "disposable parts". Surely something's not right.
My Audi's custom KKK turbo was pushing 32+psi at 100% duty cycle for years before I swapped it out for an even bigger unit.
These spinners will burn up in minutes w/o proper oiling
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self contained units are much more user friendly, but i dont think they would have the life of a unit that uses the vehicles oiling system. the oil gets changed, much more often, there is a very large source, so the cooling would be greater, and the filter system in t car would also do some of the work. I could be wrong, but I would love to hear a more fact based O.P. from a actual blower company.
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Not on a vette but I got 45k+ miles out of a procharger P-1sc. I bet I would have gotten many more miles but I removed the system and sold the car. It was on my camaro ss several years back. At 10k I think you got short changed, you should have got many more miles out of that head unit.
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self contained units are much more user friendly, but i dont think they would have the life of a unit that uses the vehicles oiling system. the oil gets changed, much more often, there is a very large source, so the cooling would be greater, and the filter system in t car would also do some of the work. I could be wrong, but I would love to hear a more fact based O.P. from a actual blower company.
My V-3si is on it's second install. 17k in the first ride..
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Melting Slicks
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The oil in a self contained unit also gets hot. Probably as hot as the engine oil. At least that has the chance to go through a cooler. I would think that both methods are fine.
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I seriously doubt the companies would allow a method that isnt safe for any head unit since they have to cover them with a warranty. I dont see the bigger vortechs being offered in a self contained version so that should also say something about application.
Melting Slicks
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If you change the oil then youre ok. If you dont, there is a safety in non-self contained. I dont have a preference. I am going to a vortech YSi and will be tapping the pan for it. I like the idea of filtered oil from the engine doing the lube as does Doug from ECS on his own car if I recall.
I seriously doubt the companies would allow a method that isnt safe for any head unit since they have to cover them with a warranty. I dont see the bigger vortechs being offered in a self contained version so that should also say something about application.
I seriously doubt the companies would allow a method that isnt safe for any head unit since they have to cover them with a warranty. I dont see the bigger vortechs being offered in a self contained version so that should also say something about application.
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... oil doesn't go bad it simply get dirty! If the self contained oil is clean (no way for it to really get dirty) it should last a very very long time...... Pumping dirty engine oil into the unit would be the absolute worst system for long life IMO...........
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If you change the oil then youre ok. If you dont, there is a safety in non-self contained. I dont have a preference. I am going to a vortech YSi and will be tapping the pan for it. I like the idea of filtered oil from the engine doing the lube as does Doug from ECS on his own car if I recall.
I seriously doubt the companies would allow a method that isnt safe for any head unit since they have to cover them with a warranty. I dont see the bigger vortechs being offered in a self contained version so that should also say something about application.
I seriously doubt the companies would allow a method that isnt safe for any head unit since they have to cover them with a warranty. I dont see the bigger vortechs being offered in a self contained version so that should also say something about application.
The biggest reason Self contained rules in my book. Powerlabs also took heat readings in another thread. The self contained head unit runs cooler with out pumping 230 degree oil into the supercharger.
plus The supercharger specific lub is way better bearing lub than motor oil. Which is made to do many jobs.
Plus the motor oil is full of combustion contamiants.
