Halon systems?...
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Halon systems?...
Anybody here have a nice halon system set up in their car? After a buddy's UGR TT Viper almost went up in flames from an oil line that leaked... I really want to get a halon system for when my TT project is done. I'm just looking to see what kits people have done, and what your impression was.
So... if you've done a halon system, share your experience!
So... if you've done a halon system, share your experience!
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Halon or FE-36 will be a great safety feature to add to your car. However, I think that as of Jan 1 2008, Halon is no longer approved by SFI. Don't know if your car is getting certified for racing.
I am using a Stroud Safety Fire Systems #877-9352 10 pound system.
The SFI 17.1 spec has a list of approved systems.
I am using a Stroud Safety Fire Systems #877-9352 10 pound system.
The SFI 17.1 spec has a list of approved systems.
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I too am using a Stroud safty system with custom bent lines and nozzle placement. I would tell you that if you ever need it, you will be happy you have it. From someone that has had turbo cars for a while I will tell you that you should always have a fire extinquisher handy if not a fire system. Turbos get hot and stuff melts and some things can combust.
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We run safecraft stuff on our road race cars.
IMO, its not needed on a street car. I would however recommend a hand fire extinguisher on a turbo car or a car with modified fuel systems etc. 90% of fuel systems I see on high power street cars are not really designed great.
I have installed a full fire system in a street car before though. if done carefully, you will never see it ('cept the bottle).
IMO, its not needed on a street car. I would however recommend a hand fire extinguisher on a turbo car or a car with modified fuel systems etc. 90% of fuel systems I see on high power street cars are not really designed great.
I have installed a full fire system in a street car before though. if done carefully, you will never see it ('cept the bottle).
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I've thought about just an extinguisher, mostly because they are cheaper, but the thought of pushing an "oh sh*t" button and drowning the engine bay with suppressant gives me an extra warm fuzzy.
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Another tidbit is that is it not that easy. You have to arm the system by removing two pins, one at the bottle and one a the button. Theoretically you dont have to run these, but it is only a matter of time before it gets accidentally pushed!
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I'm glad you think my iron block is dumb. Maybe you want to give me the extra $3000 for an RHS block. Do you have any posts where you aren't running your mouth and bagging on what other people do?
I've thought about just an extinguisher, mostly because they are cheaper, but the thought of pushing an "oh sh*t" button and drowning the engine bay with suppressant gives me an extra warm fuzzy.
I've thought about just an extinguisher, mostly because they are cheaper, but the thought of pushing an "oh sh*t" button and drowning the engine bay with suppressant gives me an extra warm fuzzy.
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I personally wouldn't consider your car a true street car.... but it's all in the eye of the beholder right? Very well built and fast though? Yes
Just like i wouldn't consider this a true street car
http://www.lingenfelter.com/LPEforum...read.php?t=773
Even though it has A/C, a stereo, and three pedals.... oh and an aluminum block......
Just like i wouldn't consider this a true street car
http://www.lingenfelter.com/LPEforum...read.php?t=773
Even though it has A/C, a stereo, and three pedals.... oh and an aluminum block......
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Dont listen to this guy. A fire system is a good idea for any turbo /high horsepower car. I have seen many highly modified turbo street and race cars go up in flames in a hurry. Its like a roll bar, helmet, or HANS device. Just added safety.
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I never said it was "dumb" it just isn't needed unless you are trying to set the world on fire, like say Mr Atomic and run 8.xx. In all the Motor Trend shoot outs, Car and Driver shootouts etc etc I have attended none of our cars or LPE's cars etc ever had an iron block.... but hey what do they know right? Six bolt heads cool? Yeah kinda, but needed for the power your turbos will make? Nope, not if it is tuned right and even then why was RC's car lifting heads with his 6 bolt block/heads? Because of a ****ty tune. I'll be the first to tell you I've trashed motors before, anyone that says they haven't is a liar, hell I melted pistons at an event for a Car & Driver shoot making over 1k rwhp... lift the heads? not even close..... A sleeved ls2 or ls7 block with good caps will support enough power that any TRUE street car will make.
This engine is going to see spray on top of boost eventually. I'm not worried about the tune because I'm doing it.
Or an airbag. You hope it never gets used, but when it does, you're glad it's there.
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I would recommend reading the SCCA rules regarding the systems installation. Ive seen systems installed poorly enough that they would do very little even used.
Minimum nozzles, imo:
1) engine bay, 180*
2) driver, 120*
3) fuel cell/tank, 180*
if you want to see what it looks like when you pull it, ill get the video up of my losing a motor @ NJ.
edit: http://www.grand-am.com/multimedia/v...p.cfm?mid=1693
need to post my incar, but by looking at the window you can guess what it looked like. BUmmer too, we ran down Rousch and had a shot at a podium
I would recommend reading the SCCA rules regarding the systems installation. Ive seen systems installed poorly enough that they would do very little even used.
Minimum nozzles, imo:
1) engine bay, 180*
2) driver, 120*
3) fuel cell/tank, 180*
if you want to see what it looks like when you pull it, ill get the video up of my losing a motor @ NJ.
edit: http://www.grand-am.com/multimedia/v...p.cfm?mid=1693
need to post my incar, but by looking at the window you can guess what it looked like. BUmmer too, we ran down Rousch and had a shot at a podium