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Old May 3, 2011 | 04:22 PM
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Sounds like some time needs to be spent setting up your progressive controller, and optimizing the rest of your set up, for the particular track conditions you encounter...
I agree, but my last pass the nitrous didn't spray and I still only cut a 1.8 60' same as with the spray, track conditions did suck though.


controller is currently 1 sec delay 100 shot, another sec delay 200 shot, spray or not the drag radials aren't cutting it
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I agree, but my last pass the nitrous didn't spray and I still only cut a 1.8 60' same as with the spray, track conditions did suck though.


controller is currently 1 sec delay 100 shot, another sec delay 200 shot, spray or not the drag radials aren't cutting it

You may want to consider adopting a "less is more" approach which I discovered (purely by accident) worked very well in my car.

On Wednesday nights I've got two tracks to choose from - Infineon and Sacramento Raceway. Infineon is over an hour from my office and preps the track very well, whereas Sacramento is only 15 minutes away and doesn't prep the track AT ALL on a Wednesday night. Since my car typically doesn't respond well to poor track prep I usually go to Infineon but a few weeks back they weren't running that night so I decided to go to Sacramento instead.

I usually run a 95 octane blend and have a pretty aggressive launch but since I knew it would end up being cold by the end of the night (coupled with the lack of track prep) I decided to only run 91 octane and also pulled about 5 degrees of timing from the engine when the car launched in order to help it hook. Much to my surprise I was cutting high 1.4 60fts for most of the night and only ran a little over a tenth slower than my usual ET despite the lower timing and octane.

Three days later we had a regular ET race (which they do prep the track for) and what was even stranger was that I couldn't get back into the 1.4's all day long despite a good hooking track and with the car back running 95 octane again. I scan every run and found that the softer launch (from Wednesday night) resulted in significantly less wheelspin so even though the car wasn't making as much power, the lack of wheelspin was more than making up for it.
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You may want to consider adopting a "less is more" approach which I discovered (purely by accident) worked very well in my car.

On Wednesday nights I've got two tracks to choose from - Infineon and Sacramento Raceway. Infineon is over an hour from my office and preps the track very well, whereas Sacramento is only 15 minutes away and doesn't prep the track AT ALL on a Wednesday night. Since my car typically doesn't respond well to poor track prep I usually go to Infineon but a few weeks back they weren't running that night so I decided to go to Sacramento instead.

I usually run a 95 octane blend and have a pretty aggressive launch but since I knew it would end up being cold by the end of the night (coupled with the lack of track prep) I decided to only run 91 octane and also pulled about 5 degrees of timing from the engine when the car launched in order to help it hook. Much to my surprise I was cutting high 1.4 60fts for most of the night and only ran a little over a tenth slower than my usual ET despite the lower timing and octane.

Three days later we had a regular ET race (which they do prep the track for) and what was even stranger was that I couldn't get back into the 1.4's all day long despite a good hooking track and with the car back running 95 octane again. I scan every run and found that the softer launch (from Wednesday night) resulted in significantly less wheelspin so even though the car wasn't making as much power, the lack of wheelspin was more than making up for it.
will try a softer launch, meanwhile I am waiting on my et streets (old school bias) and aluma stars
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will try a softer launch, meanwhile I am waiting on my et streets (old school bias) and aluma stars
If it's not late (and you have the proper rims) you might want to consider not using the bias ply.

I've run 17" MT ET Streets, 275/40/17" MT drag radial and the same size in the Hoosiers and found the MT radials hooked better than the bias ply but the Hoosiers "outhooked" them all.
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Old May 3, 2011 | 04:54 PM
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I have the same issue you have.

Last summer I went to the track on me MT 345 30x18” and the car was all over through fist and second gear then I put on me 26” x17 new et street and I had the same issue. Then I did put on me new 28x17 slicks then the car did start to hook but at that point of time I had al candy of trouble with the car all the way from clutch, driveshaft to rear diff. So I you would like to hook the car I suggest you get the slicks.

The track I me aria is not prepped so it is more challenge to hook the car.
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Old May 3, 2011 | 05:29 PM
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If it's not late (and you have the proper rims) you might want to consider not using the bias ply.

I've run 17" MT ET Streets, 275/40/17" MT drag radial and the same size in the Hoosiers and found the MT radials hooked better than the bias ply but the Hoosiers "outhooked" them all.
you feel the new et street drag radials hook better than bias et streets?
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Originally Posted by juicedz06
seems like old school bias et streets should hook better than a radial et street?
I will have to disagree...

My car hooks better on the Mickey Thompson 325/50/15's than it did on a 28x10.5w slick!

Those Drag radials are the thing to go with!
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you feel the new et street drag radials hook better than bias et streets?
Yep, absolutely.
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Originally Posted by juicedz06
maybe in turbo cars, look like alot of them roll out easy then hit it
I run consistant 1.30-1.35 on my Mickey Thompson Drag Radials.

There are a few things you need to consider.

1st, don't compare the M&H to the MT... there is no comparison. PERIOD

2nd, track conditions will dictate pressure settings.

3rd, You are going to hate the way the ET Streets dance around, and you won't get nearly as many passes on them


Some information that may be helpful.

M&H Drag radials require a very SMALL burnout. They grease easily and that will effect traction.

I was running my M&H's all the way down between 8-10 psi when I was running in the low 1.3x's on them. They would spin on the rim, so you need to glue or screw them.

The MT Drag radials like to be around 14.5-17psi depending on track conditions. They take a much bigger burnout and hook way better. The bigger sidewall will handle much more power and you can flash them with a big shot and as long as they hook initially they should stay planted (as long as your suspension setup is good)

Slicks, well lets just say I was breaking down the side walls on slicks after about 3 passes! A bias ply tire won't hold up to a lot of power on cars as heavy as these can be.

Hope this info helps.
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Originally Posted by carlrx7
275/40/17" hoosier dot drag radials, dead hook.



4000, 4800, 5200 rpm launch
What the hell were you racing in that last run, a minivan???
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Originally Posted by atomicfusion
I run consistant 1.30-1.35 on my Mickey Thompson Drag Radials.

There are a few things you need to consider.

1st, don't compare the M&H to the MT... there is no comparison. PERIOD

2nd, track conditions will dictate pressure settings.

3rd, You are going to hate the way the ET Streets dance around, and you won't get nearly as many passes on them


Some information that may be helpful.

M&H Drag radials require a very SMALL burnout. They grease easily and that will effect traction.




Hope this info helps.
ok, ordering Mickey Thompson 325/50/15's drag radials now

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What the hell were you racing in that last run, a minivan???
Look like a SRT 8 truck
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What the hell were you racing in that last run, a minivan???
Actually it was a Pontiac G8 with bolt ons.

lol my dad said the same thing!
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Mickey Thompson 325/50/15's drag radials are on and look bad ***! Car should HOOK!
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Originally Posted by juicedz06
Mickey Thompson 325/50/15's drag radials are on and look bad ***! Car should HOOK!
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just finished the lg rear spindle and 15's install, OMG the CAR HOOKS! @20psi on the street the car was dead hooking. on a 100 shot into a 200 shot it barely spun on the street!

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looks bad *** !!! any more pics ?
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