Dyno comparison on TT C6 Z06.. GM LS7 427 Vs RHS/All Pro 427.. Dyno/Pics/Video Inside
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Dyno comparison on TT C6 Z06.. GM LS7 427 Vs RHS/All Pro 427.. Dyno/Pics/Video Inside
We recently built a Twin Turbo C6 Z06 for our customer and Outlaw 10.5 Racing champion Tim Lynch... For more information on the initial build check out this link
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-f...tim-lynch.html
The original build was based on a stock LS7 block/Stock LS7 camshaft/Stock LS7 cylinder heads. Modifications to the engine consisted of forged pistons/rings/bearings/Dual Springs/Hardened pushrods/C5R Timing Chain/Head Studs/Trunion Upgrade...
Here is a dyno graph showing results on 11psi and 14 psi on the original LS7 engine. These dyno runs were performed the day prior to removing the LS7.
11psi- 672RWHP/689RWTQ
14psi736RWHP/738RWTQ
The new engine is still 427 cubic inches, but was built to handle much more power...
RHS Race Prep Block- 4.125 Bore/Standard deck
Lunati Billet Crankshaft- 4" Stroke
Lentz 6.125 Connecting Rods
Custom Diamond Pistons/Rings
Coated Main/Rod Bearings
Custom DOUBLE roller Timing Set
Ported/Shimmed LS7 Oil Pump
Custom Solid Roller Camshaft (240s Duration)
All Pro LSW Cylinder Heads
Jesel Rockers
Compression is 9.25:1 (The same as the LS7)
Aside from the shortblock being built to handle ALOT more power the biggest differences are GM LS7 Cylinder Heads Vs All Pro LSW heads and the OEM LS7 camshaft Vs the mild solid roller camshaft....
I must note, while we had the drivetrain out we removed the Aeromotive fuel system we had previously installed and replaced it with Racing Solutions Triple In Tank fuel system. The Aeromotive system had left Tim on the side of the road 3 times in a very short period of time so it had to be replaced. I am happy to say that we have had ZERO issues from the Racing Solutions fuel system.
Here is a dyno comparison of the GM LS7 Vs the RHS/All Pro combo making 11psi
GM LS7- 672RWHP/689RWTQ
RHS/All Pro- 769RWHP/750RWTQ
A gain of 97RWHP/61RWTQ at the same boost level..
You will notice we lost some low end power with the larger heads and camshaft, BUT this actually made the car more controllable as it wants to annihilate the tires at pretty much any point in the RPM....
Here is a 14lb dyno comparison
GM LS7- 736RWHP/738RWHP
RHS/All Pro- 854RWHP/816RWTQ
A gain of 118RWHP/78RWTQ
Here is our final pull on 15psi/pump gas/no methanol
Results: 880RWHP/817RWTQ
We are waiting for Tim to put a few more miles on the new combo and for the heat to break a bit. Once both of these things happen we will start tuning for big boost on C16... Things should get very interesting in the 25lb range
Here is an idle clip. Notice how mild the camshaft sounds in this video....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMi4xzbzIDs
Here are a few pics of the completed build. We were very pleased with the finished product.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-f...tim-lynch.html
The original build was based on a stock LS7 block/Stock LS7 camshaft/Stock LS7 cylinder heads. Modifications to the engine consisted of forged pistons/rings/bearings/Dual Springs/Hardened pushrods/C5R Timing Chain/Head Studs/Trunion Upgrade...
Here is a dyno graph showing results on 11psi and 14 psi on the original LS7 engine. These dyno runs were performed the day prior to removing the LS7.
11psi- 672RWHP/689RWTQ
14psi736RWHP/738RWTQ
The new engine is still 427 cubic inches, but was built to handle much more power...
RHS Race Prep Block- 4.125 Bore/Standard deck
Lunati Billet Crankshaft- 4" Stroke
Lentz 6.125 Connecting Rods
Custom Diamond Pistons/Rings
Coated Main/Rod Bearings
Custom DOUBLE roller Timing Set
Ported/Shimmed LS7 Oil Pump
Custom Solid Roller Camshaft (240s Duration)
All Pro LSW Cylinder Heads
Jesel Rockers
Compression is 9.25:1 (The same as the LS7)
Aside from the shortblock being built to handle ALOT more power the biggest differences are GM LS7 Cylinder Heads Vs All Pro LSW heads and the OEM LS7 camshaft Vs the mild solid roller camshaft....
I must note, while we had the drivetrain out we removed the Aeromotive fuel system we had previously installed and replaced it with Racing Solutions Triple In Tank fuel system. The Aeromotive system had left Tim on the side of the road 3 times in a very short period of time so it had to be replaced. I am happy to say that we have had ZERO issues from the Racing Solutions fuel system.
Here is a dyno comparison of the GM LS7 Vs the RHS/All Pro combo making 11psi
GM LS7- 672RWHP/689RWTQ
RHS/All Pro- 769RWHP/750RWTQ
A gain of 97RWHP/61RWTQ at the same boost level..
You will notice we lost some low end power with the larger heads and camshaft, BUT this actually made the car more controllable as it wants to annihilate the tires at pretty much any point in the RPM....
Here is a 14lb dyno comparison
GM LS7- 736RWHP/738RWHP
RHS/All Pro- 854RWHP/816RWTQ
A gain of 118RWHP/78RWTQ
Here is our final pull on 15psi/pump gas/no methanol
Results: 880RWHP/817RWTQ
We are waiting for Tim to put a few more miles on the new combo and for the heat to break a bit. Once both of these things happen we will start tuning for big boost on C16... Things should get very interesting in the 25lb range
Here is an idle clip. Notice how mild the camshaft sounds in this video....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMi4xzbzIDs
Here are a few pics of the completed build. We were very pleased with the finished product.
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Drifting
Very nice built, the only thing I could be thinking hard about is the tripple in tank pumps, there are no way of knowing when one stops working untill you ask for more gas and the car goes lean, all pumps are feed by the same power supply so when there is a problem its very hard to detect.
Best of luck with the very nice build and hope Tim enjoys it more now, tell him to look out at some of those monsters out there.
Best of luck with the very nice build and hope Tim enjoys it more now, tell him to look out at some of those monsters out there.
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Safety Car
This makes me really anxious to dyno my car with the TTix kit since I ended up doing WCCH LSX-LS7 heads and a Pat G custom turbo cam. Nice results!
#8
Drifting
I can't wait to see 25lbs boost.
Like where the boost gauge was put, can it be seen when driving? Not a fan of the pillar setup. It would be nice to see a electric fuel pressure gauge next to the boost in the console where it can be seens.
Like where the boost gauge was put, can it be seen when driving? Not a fan of the pillar setup. It would be nice to see a electric fuel pressure gauge next to the boost in the console where it can be seens.
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Le Mans Master
What is the power limitation of a forged 427?
What would be the limitation on a forged, dry sleeved ls2?
What would be the price of this setup installed with the turbo system?
What would be the limitation on a forged, dry sleeved ls2?
What would be the price of this setup installed with the turbo system?
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If you don't mind ....
What A/R exhaust housing is being used on the GT35R's ?
And what nominal diameter are the charge pipes ?
And are you willing to share the cam specs ? (No worries, I'm mostly interested in the first 2 questions).
What A/R exhaust housing is being used on the GT35R's ?
And what nominal diameter are the charge pipes ?
And are you willing to share the cam specs ? (No worries, I'm mostly interested in the first 2 questions).
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We just put mine through the ringers last Friday on some lond winded 4th gear pulls on a Mustang dyno... It is still alive.