Max boost on the E-force s/c?
Le Mans Master
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St. Jude Donor '13
I've seen a lot of threads where all they do after a 3" pulley is heat up the air due to the long runners not being able to pass the air... Honestly I was going nuts trying to find a way to get 650 whp whether it be with meth or e85 and pullying down
After speaking with some shops they wanted $3,000 for a cam install and tuned, I asked if i go a through the meth route if I brought them julios's alky kit and they told me $2,000! just for install and tune (I guess they don't have any discounts for college students
)
I realized if you want to make big big power go with another kit.. so for now I'm probably just gonna get a 3.25in pulley 1000cc injectors... racetronix harness.. kenne bell BAP, wire and install injectors, pulley myself, tune it on e85, and just keep an eye on the fuel pressure up top to make sure im not starving it.
After speaking with some shops they wanted $3,000 for a cam install and tuned, I asked if i go a through the meth route if I brought them julios's alky kit and they told me $2,000! just for install and tune (I guess they don't have any discounts for college students
)I realized if you want to make big big power go with another kit.. so for now I'm probably just gonna get a 3.25in pulley 1000cc injectors... racetronix harness.. kenne bell BAP, wire and install injectors, pulley myself, tune it on e85, and just keep an eye on the fuel pressure up top to make sure im not starving it.
I am not sure the stock pump and bap will be enough with E85... but have never tried it.
Advanced
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From: Miami Florida
If you don't have, or don't want to spend a ton of money, keep it simple. What I posted above is proof it can be done. Talk is just talk. The problem is the more power you make, the more upgrades you need, and it gets expensive fast.
I am not sure the stock pump and bap will be enough with E85... but have never tried it.
I am not sure the stock pump and bap will be enough with E85... but have never tried it.
Instructor
Joined: May 2014
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From: Pittsburgh PA
IF you search by my nick there are a build thread I did but a quick summary.
LS402
Good heads
custom cam
ARH 1 7/8 headers
pump gas and water/meth
At this point I was running a 2.75 pulley, 8 degree overdrive damper, 90 mm idler pulley and had no belt slip to speak of.
This is through a 6L80 and triple disc stall. Should be higher in a manual car.
I took the eforce as far as I could. It is a great blower and never gave me trouble. I have nothing bad to say about them.
As you can see the boost is about 14, and creeps up about a half lb at the end. For those who say power drops off dramatically at the top..........I guess its all in the right setup.
LS402
Good heads
custom cam
ARH 1 7/8 headers
pump gas and water/meth
At this point I was running a 2.75 pulley, 8 degree overdrive damper, 90 mm idler pulley and had no belt slip to speak of.
This is through a 6L80 and triple disc stall. Should be higher in a manual car.
I took the eforce as far as I could. It is a great blower and never gave me trouble. I have nothing bad to say about them.
As you can see the boost is about 14, and creeps up about a half lb at the end. For those who say power drops off dramatically at the top..........I guess its all in the right setup.
LS7
Manual
Kooks Longtubes
Callies Rods
Compstar Crank
Custom Cam
katech oil pump, with Lingenfelter dry sump tank
IDE850 with pigtails
fuel pump upgrade(tbd)
might mouse catch can
and a lot of misc. support items.
Burning Brakes
Joined: Jan 2012
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From: Orlando FL
If you don't have, or don't want to spend a ton of money, keep it simple. What I posted above is proof it can be done. Talk is just talk. The problem is the more power you make, the more upgrades you need, and it gets expensive fast.
I am not sure the stock pump and bap will be enough with E85... but have never tried it.
I am not sure the stock pump and bap will be enough with E85... but have never tried it.
-Curtis
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Intermediate
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From: Newport News VA
If you don't have, or don't want to spend a ton of money, keep it simple. What I posted above is proof it can be done. Talk is just talk. The problem is the more power you make, the more upgrades you need, and it gets expensive fast.
I am not sure the stock pump and bap will be enough with E85... but have never tried it.
I am not sure the stock pump and bap will be enough with E85... but have never tried it.
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St. Jude Donor '15
I used the connector. If you don't have access to a proper set of crimpers to make a good crimp then I would probably not go that route. I'd either use the connector + solder or just straight solder it. I personally would not just crimp it, even though there are hundreds of crimped electrical connectors on the car that work just fine.. I still would rather spend the 2 minutes to solder it too
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Le Mans Master
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St. Jude Donor '13
Burning Brakes
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From: Orlando FL
Le Mans Master
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From: Montreal
St. Jude Donor '13
Melting Slicks
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591/580 at the wheels with an eforce 599 kit for LS3 plus a 3" pulley, 1.75 Pfadt headers, ID850 injectors, 12* timing, 93 octane and 10 psi boost. So, a better cam, meth/e85/race gas and more timing might get 650-700. I keep debating with myself of this next project.
Drifting
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From: East Strouds PA
This is a pretty good thread maybe to be resurrected. My 06z in the high 600's rwhp and just started playing with meth.
Plan to go to straight alky with Julios kit once the time is right. I would really like to see more write ups and sharing of information with meth/water injection especially on eforce along with peak HP numbers.
Plan to go to straight alky with Julios kit once the time is right. I would really like to see more write ups and sharing of information with meth/water injection especially on eforce along with peak HP numbers.
Instructor
Joined: May 2014
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From: Pittsburgh PA
This is a pretty good thread maybe to be resurrected. My 06z in the high 600's rwhp and just started playing with meth.
Plan to go to straight alky with Julios kit once the time is right. I would really like to see more write ups and sharing of information with meth/water injection especially on eforce along with peak HP numbers.
Plan to go to straight alky with Julios kit once the time is right. I would really like to see more write ups and sharing of information with meth/water injection especially on eforce along with peak HP numbers.
