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Old Jul 2, 2012 | 08:56 AM
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So I have logged 85 miles on my new shortblock but Random/Multiple Cylinder Misfire code is being thrown. I am on the same tune from when it was a stock engine and 5" pulley. I now have an all forged shortblock, approx. 9.75:1 compression and went down to pulley sizes to 4.63". I also installed a Kenne Belle BAP. I am driving it like granny just to get some break in miles before I take it back to dyno for tune. I pulled all plugs, replaced them, verified spark plug wires are all good, and even flushed intercooler out to ensure it didnt have any oily buildup in it. It also sometimes shuts off completely when coming to a stop. I know I need to stay out of boost, and believe me, I am. But, will the change in compression and pulley size cause it to pull timing due to a lean condition, even at idle and light part throttle? Oh, it has been 100+ degrees and humid here in Savannah, GA.

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If you went from stock LS7 compression to the new numbers without a tune I would expect it to be funky.

It should have a "driveability" tune in it for the break in miles. Also have it logged to make sure the difference in tune is causing the issue and it's not something mechanical.
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Engine temps are not exceeding 205* driving it around today, so all is normal there too... Just fyi...
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My tuner says a lean condition would pop a lean code. Therefore Random/Multiple Cylinder misfire is from something else.
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Possibly a bad knock sensor???? (this is me thinking out loud)
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Might be worth the $90 to have GM put it on a TECH2 to see what it says is bad.
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Another note, possibly related to the shutting off, is that I dont have the driver's side 02 sensor plugged in at all. I unplugged and removed it so I could put my wideband in its place. The last tune may have not had the rear 02 sensors completely shut off. It pops the two codes for it immediately. Could this **** the computer off enough to shut it down?
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Also.... The oil level and coolant level are staying right where they should.
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Another note, possibly related to the shutting off, is that I dont have the driver's side 02 sensor plugged in at all. I unplugged and removed it so I could put my wideband in its place. The last tune may have not had the rear 02 sensors completely shut off. It pops the two codes for it immediately. Could this **** the computer off enough to shut it down?
Got the answer on this from my tuner. The answer is NO. But it is weird to him, because he said he did turn them off. But he has had them pop back up on his GM vehicle. Just need to be turned off again on retune.
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The misfire could be because of the drop in compression with timing/fuel being static, it may just not be firing off the mixture in the cylinder. Lower compression will require something to bring it back up to light off the same as before.

(Me thinking out loud with you since nobody else has replied)
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Did you do a CASE learn on the new setup? Could be the timing is off.
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Also just for gp have you checked to make sure all of your injectors electrical connectors are seated fully? I got that after installing my new fuel rails and it was a simple connector issue. Reseat them all, clear the codes then start it up and see if that fixes it.
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Did you do a CASE learn on the new setup? Could be the timing is off.
Exactly what my tuner said
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Originally Posted by Drewstein
The misfire could be because of the drop in compression with timing/fuel being static, it may just not be firing off the mixture in the cylinder. Lower compression will require something to bring it back up to light off the same as before.

(Me thinking out loud with you since nobody else has replied)
This is true and I believe goes hand in hand with the CASE learn.
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Originally Posted by Deezee757
Also just for gp have you checked to make sure all of your injectors electrical connectors are seated fully? I got that after installing my new fuel rails and it was a simple connector issue. Reseat them all, clear the codes then start it up and see if that fixes it.
Checked them and they are all good.
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Rudy, any updates?
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Rudy, any updates?
It goes to the dyno this Saturday. They are going to tune it throughout the week and I will pick it up next Saturday. He wants to spend alot of time (data log) and make sure it is tuned perfect for driveability as well as WOT.
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Sounds good man; hope everything turns out well. Are you driving it there to rack up the break-in miles? or are you trailering it? I know you need to stay off of boos, but not a biggie I guess when you are on the highway...
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Originally Posted by KLRBEE2
Sounds good man; hope everything turns out well. Are you driving it there to rack up the break-in miles? or are you trailering it? I know you need to stay off of boos, but not a biggie I guess when you are on the highway...
No trailer required. Driving it everyday, then down there for tune. It will have at least 400 miles on it by the time I drop it off. And it has already had 2 oil changes.
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