I´m currently using e-Boost2. It look like quit few high HP cars are using the AMS1000. What is the benefit of changing from e-Boost2 to AMS1000 or is there some other controller better than those? It seem like you can ad spring pressure on the Westgate with AMS1000. Is AMS 1000 easier you program? What about the boost be speed through GPS is that working well?

 

eBoost 2 is King
AMS1000 is God

 

I agree with this. I am running an AMS1000 on my car. It is easy to program, but to use the Boost By Gear function, you will need to also run a Lingenfelter STOV-001 that can take the vehicle speed and convert it into a series of voltage change commands that the AMS-1000 can recognize as gear changes.

Additionally, you will need to run CO2, which pushes down on the wastegates keeping them closed until the proper boost level is achieved. By positively keeping the wastegates closed, the car builds boost faster.

 

The Lethal Performance car uses AMS1000. If that cars lays the smack down on folks from a roll on 20's I think that's enough proof. E Boost II doesn't even come close.

 

That car also makes a buttload more horsepower than almost anything that will ever be lined up against it. I wouldn't use that as proof it works. However, the AMS-1000 is still pretty nice.

The real deal is just building your own controller. That's what I'm doing... I'll have whatever functionality I want. I could put a strain gauge on my *** cheek to measure how freaked out I am to control it if I wanted to. Lol.

 

What are you looking to get out of it? Controlled boost levels? Boost by gear? Traction control? Might look into proefi also.

 

I used to run the AMS1000, now I run the MSD boost controller... The new version of the AMS1000 is really nice and easy to program.

I use the MSD because I keep each boost "tune" stored so that when I want to run a specific ET again I can just load the appropriate boost "tune"

The AMS will store a few tunes for you, so if you only run 2 or 3 different boost curves it will be fine, but if you need unlimited tunes you may want to look at other options.

The C02 setup is so much better at controlling boost than just a spring... having complete control over your curve is key to making the power when and where you need it.

 

I also forgot to mention that the MSD controller I use is very consisitant... I have run back to back to back passes at exactly the same ET and MPH. If I want to command 6.89@221MPH I can do just that.

With the AMS1000 it was always close, just not quite as precise as the MSD has been.

 

I am really excited to hear the MSD is working well for you. I was initially going to go that route, but was talked out of it by folks over at YellowBullet because they were saying they had a high failure rate. The MSDs are very nice, but I think more difficult to program from what I have gleaned from MSD users. Would you agree?

 

nothing wrong with the eb2, and it has more capability than the 99%ers here would ever comprehend.

 

And what's that make Pro Efi??? The ultimate Omega???

 

Haven't heard a negative thing about it yet. Most won't spend that kind of money for that control or AMS1000, then again there are quite a few on here the complain about the cost of things anyways haha.

 

Thanks for your reply.

I have regular internal forge westgate. At higher psi + 16-20 psi I have issue to hold pressure a bow spring pressure. Let’s say I make pull in 4 gear and I lose traction at 5300 RPM them I lose the psi and it does not build a bow spring which is about 15-16 psi. At the track I only hold the spring pressure (15-16 psi) If I get clean 4 gear wod from 3500 rpm then I hold higher psi through the RPM range.

Mi goal is to put softer spring (6-10 psi) or to be able to control psi from be lo spring pressure to 22 psi and to do this be speed or gear. Is this possible and what is the best solution for this. If you have AMS1000 where do you locate it in your car?

 

We have done both both. For a budget eboost is a good controller. If you have the $ ams is they way to go. And of course I would also listen to atomic he is the fastest of us all. They know what they are doing.

 

here is how you hook up eboost2 to c02 if you desire copied from marty on the yb.


Hook up:
CO2 to the top port of the gate, manifold pressure to the bottom. Spring pressure of the gate to be less than the min pressure desired.
e-Boost solonoid is hooked up to the top port with the CO2. Port 1 is to CO2 bottle, Port 2 is to the top port of the gate and port 3 is vent.
*We recommend having a second solonoid at the CO2 bottle after the reg that uses the auxilary output to charge the system once manifold pressure reached positive and RPM is above about 3000 - this is as a safety shutoff. The hook up for this shut off is the same - Port 1 is to CO2 bottle, Port 2 is to the e-Boost control solonoid and port 3 is vent.


Tuning:
Set max boost with solonoid removed from the system, adjusting the CO2 pressure regulator at the bottle to get your target. To get lower pressure, hook up the e-boost and use as normal - the more numbers you enter into the set point the higher the boost will be.
An SP figure of 99 will result in getting to the max boost that was set by regulating the CO2 pressure from the bottle. An SP figure of 0 will result in the boost pressure level being the same as the spring in the gate.
SP - 99 = Max Boost
SP - 0 = Min Boost

 

Dang thats pretty fancy use of the EB2!

 

Let me start off by saying that the eboost and ams1000 are quality pieces... I have nothing bad to say about either. I have used both and each was good for what it was intended to do.

As for the MSD, it was SIMPLE to program... here is how it works... there is a graph with time on it... you basically command the boost you want at the time you want it by drawing the curve the way you want it to look... it really is that simple.

Example... this is a 6.9x@22x pass



each point is a plotted point on the graph... you can simply drag and move them with the mouse to where you want them.

I save each boost curve and name it something like 6.9@221Norwalk612 and this way when I need a 6.9x run in similar conditions I can just load it, transfer it to the MSD and be done!

You can also play back what happened on the run and compare it to what you commanded to see how things went. In our case we aren't at 1:1 backpressure yet so we get pretty much what we command. Your application may be different.

 

You can do boost by time with the EB2 (as of ~4.18 firmware) also but it's not nearly as user friendly with it's three buttons.

 

I like that there are options with this type of stuff. I have a friend with a TT Camaro that uses the eboost2 and a couple friends with Supra's that use Proefi. Haven't heard a bad thing about either. Looks like the AMS and MSD get it done as well.

 

EB2 have worked for me so far but it is not the easy to program. MSD look nice and seams easy to program and I like to use PC to program.

It look like I can do what I want with EB2,AMS1000, MSD and more. Any one selling complete kit with all the parts needed.
Can I still add to the spring pressure with CO2 on single port Wastegate Actuator or do I need dual port?